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Old 01-22-2013, 01:27 PM   #71 (permalink)
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That's not really just his booking, but his character as well. He wants to hurt people, he loves to wreck stuff. He's a big dumb oaf who likes to beat the living shit out of people, that's his character. And he already lost a few matches. Yes, they were be shenanigans, but he still lost. And he's still a big dumb oaf who likes to beat the shit out of people. Just because he loses doesn't mean anything changes, he's still a human wrecking ball.

What do you mean by, a little substance? Ryback is the only guy one the roster who's a bad-ass killing machine. He's singles out from everyone else. When his music hits, you know shit's about to go down, you know bodies are going to be flying everywhere. Sure, the WWE has always had monster character that don't say much, but Ryback's different. You want to know why? Because he's over. He's really over. He's one of the most over guy's on the roster when a few months ago he was just beating local jobbers. So, it's obviously his character (and Feed Me More chant) are working.
His character doesn't work without the unstoppable force booking though. Your retort being he has lost three times now? Yes, thanks to three guys attacking him all at once or a cheating referee. So he can't even lose due to roll-ups or distractions. It has to be made like the entire world was against him to do so.

The losses haven't changed anything because of how he lost. He's over partly/mostly because of how unstoppable he's being booked. Why would he want to be feed more if he loses cleanly anyway? He wouldnt/shouldnt. What make him special? World's strongest man? Demon? Dead? Giant? Amazing moveset? Oh, because he's hungry. Why is is hungry? Just is. When will he stop? Oh, never?

And you're right. He does come across as a big dumb oaf. So why would that translate to him being future face of the company? Why would that make the adult audiences want to hear what he says? So we can hear about how he wants to eat everybody?

Also, if Big E Langston was debuted as Ryback instead? And said Feed me more and won basically every match? Would anything be different? I don't think so. Would he still be just as over? Yes, unless being black stops wrestlers from getting over. Plus you probably have less botches.

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Old 01-22-2013, 01:30 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Ryback unable to cut a promo as hes so gassed from a 5 minute match. Those steroids hes on are the cause. Vince needs to wake up and realise Ryback isnt gonna be the big guy star of the company
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:57 PM   #73 (permalink)
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All that hate towards Ryback , its actually sad .We get something new and refreshing and everyone ends up hating it, some people just cant be happy.
Fail.

Actually, if you'd read the thread, you'd see the complete opposite is want I said.
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I disagree with this part. Punk vs Ryback was for me the weakest rivalry Punk has had in his reign because it was pretty one-sided story-wise (Ryback chasing Punk and Punk running, not a single relevant exchange of words), it was the only guy I think Punk didn't work really well with in the matches, and it set Punk up in the completely wrong way when you look at how they've planned Punk vs Rock. Rocky is saying what a badass Punk is, which works fine after every single feud Punk has had except for the Ryback one.

I don't think it did much good for Ryback either. Even though he was booked strong on the expense of credibility for Punk vs Rock he was still shown as a loser and lost momentum. People still chant for him but previously he got much bigger pops when he entered the arena, while it's now much more quiet until it's chanting time.

In short I think Punk vs Rock makes both guys look good while Punk vs Ryback made both look bad.
Punk vs. Rock isn't billed as "two all-time greats," its an all-time great versus an illegitimate cheater who shouldn't have the belt. Rock is the hero, Punk is the villian. Can Rock overcome the cheating bullshit that no other hero on the roster has been able to overcome. I'm a huge Punk fan, I approach it as "can Punk beat Rock," but that's really not the story. Punk didn't lose credibility in the Ryback storyline because his credibility wasn't premised on being "Best in the World," it was premised on him being a cheating asshole who won't let go of his belt (lol he literally clutches the thing with total fear in his eyes).
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I posted this in the Raw discussion thread last night, but Ryback close up reminds me a hell of a lot of the old Weekly World News 'Bat Boy'



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I like how he has started to even do the Goldberg facial expressions now. It's like he said, "fuck it..." and is now just going with the program.
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I want to see him in the ring with Regal.... Lets see if he can actually wrestle.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:47 PM   #79 (permalink)
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He sort of reminds me of sloth from the goonies, personally. I think part of the resentment he gets from the IWC is that his matches are short so he doesn't get gassed, he may have been in developmental, but he's only been on TV for a little bit and gets a monster push, and his moveset for a guy his size seems pretty.... well lame. Despite all of this, he gets a crazy push in which he's dominating a guy that has had the belt for over a year, meanwhile guys like Daniel Bryan are relegated to clown roles, and Ziggler's jobbing to Cena. Yeah, he's in the main event more often now, but he's still jobbing lol.
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He sort of reminds me of sloth from the goonies, personally. I think part of the resentment he gets from the IWC is that his matches are short so he doesn't get gassed, he may have been in developmental, but he's only been on TV for a little bit and gets a monster push, and his moveset for a guy his size seems pretty.... well lame. Despite all of this, he gets a crazy push in which he's dominating a guy that has had the belt for over a year, meanwhile guys like Daniel Bryan are relegated to clown roles, and Ziggler's jobbing to Cena. Yeah, he's in the main event more often now, but he's still jobbing lol.
You know why Ryback get's resentment from the IWC? Because he was pushed, that's why. Just like how people hated The Miz after he won the WWE Championship, or Sheamus, or even Daniel Bryan. Just like how people will begin to hate on Sandow, Cersaro, The Shield, and even Ziggler once he's pushed. Hell, CM Punk was one of the most beloved wrestler in the entire IWC. Not, he probably has more people that are against him. Why? Because he was pushed.

When a wrestler is in the midcard, their fans feel like he's being held down. Every lose is a burial, every time he's not on TV it's a travesy of justive. But, once their pushed into the main event their "part of the system." Their being pushed, their winning matches, their not longer being "buried" or "misused." So, the IWC finds their next favorite to root for until they move to the main event, than they bitch about how that person shouldn't be in the main event.
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