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Old 01-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #61 (permalink)
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The guy is pretty over it seems, and I don't have too much problem with him. He has a nice build that fits the character, and his offense can look vicious at times (I love the meathook clothesline). I think he could tone down the "feed me more" chants though.
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This is hilarious. I honestly thought it was kids were the only ones digging the Ryback thing while adults were just going along with it for the sake of it. I'm honestly embarrassed to inhibit the same planet as some of you. I can understand not minding Ryback, but come on? You really want the dude to be a major part of the show you watch every week? let alone being the face of the company? Are you people who like Ryback the same people who made nickelback famous?
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I don't know. Stuff that entertains one person doesn't always entertain the other. If you don't find Ryback entertaining, that's fine.

I can just say that how I find him entertaining is he's a huge wrecking ball who just likes to beat the shit out of people.
Okay, you like that he dominates matches? I can get that. That isn't really him though, right? That's his booking. He's been made to seem unstoppable and like a monster. What of that is him? If the WWE make him lose a few matches and not seem unstoppable? What is he then? Are you still entertained? Don't you want a little substance? Like the WWE has always had monster characters who haven't said much, but they usually have some type of "mystique" around them or something. Panache, charisma...call it what you will. A dude which claims he is always hungry? That does it for you?
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All that hate towards Ryback , its actually sad .We get something new and refreshing and everyone ends up hating it, some people just cant be happy.
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Also, how do you make him a top star going forward? You can't rely on him to do promos because no one really wants to hear him talk. So you just make him seem unstoppable? For good? at the expense of everyone else? Muscular guy who has insatiable hunger just makes every other star pale in comparison due to said hunger? Even though we've seen bigger, stronger, more muscular, and more intimidating wrestlers now and in the past?
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Okay, you like that he dominates matches? I can get that. That isn't really him though, right? That's his booking. He's been made to seem unstoppable and like a monster. What of that is him? If the WWE make him lose a few matches and not seem unstoppable? What is he then? Are you still entertained? Don't you want a little substance? Like the WWE has always had monster characters who haven't said much, but they usually have some type of "mystique" around them or something. Panache, charisma...call it what you will. A dude which claims he is always hungry? That does it for you?
That's not really just his booking, but his character as well. He wants to hurt people, he loves to wreck stuff. He's a big dumb oaf who likes to beat the living shit out of people, that's his character. And he already lost a few matches. Yes, they were be shenanigans, but he still lost. And he's still a big dumb oaf who likes to beat the shit out of people. Just because he loses doesn't mean anything changes, he's still a human wrecking ball.

What do you mean by, a little substance? Ryback is the only guy one the roster who's a bad-ass killing machine. He's singles out from everyone else. When his music hits, you know shit's about to go down, you know bodies are going to be flying everywhere. Sure, the WWE has always had monster character that don't say much, but Ryback's different. You want to know why? Because he's over. He's really over. He's one of the most over guy's on the roster when a few months ago he was just beating local jobbers. So, it's obviously his character (and Feed Me More chant) are working.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:46 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Okay, I get that. For the sake of argument though. I'm a 26 year old male. I'm not obsessed with muscles. Why would I ever want to see a Ryback match and/or promo? What does he offer me or any other like-minded individual? What does he offer to adults? Unless he entertains your children or something?
30 year old guy here, I don't give a shit about muscles but what I do like about Ryback is relentlessness. Always been a fan of monsters, huge Kane mark but in the current era we don't really have that many people who are believably just fucking wanting to destroy everyone.

As much as it's IWC cliché I'd love to seem him more tweener like with Ruthless Agression. The best we have in this era for that is Henry who's still out and Lesnar who's a part timer.
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Also, how do you make him a top star going forward? You can't rely on him to do promos because no one really wants to hear him talk. So you just make him seem unstoppable? For good? at the expense of everyone else? Muscular guy who has insatiable hunger just makes every other star pale in comparison due to said hunger? Even though we've seen bigger, stronger, more muscular, and more intimidating wrestlers now and in the past?
Simple, have him begin to talk more. He's not a very bad talker, it's just that his character now doesn't require him to speak much. He's more or a "action's speak louder than words" type of superstar. Sure, it he win's the WWE Championship, he will have to cut longer promo's, but I don't think that'll be a problem.

Well, like I said in the other post, he's unstoppable anymore. He's 0-3 in his last three pay per view matches, so you know he can be beat. Sure, there were shenanigans, but he still lost. He's not like Goldberg where they had him win every match than he won the World Title. Ryback has already lost, so he's not a unstoppable monster anymore as far as PPV's matches go.
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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Any one who defends Ryback is on some other shit. Can u really sit there and say that this guy entertains u? He doesn't, he does the same shit in his matches, cuts meaningless promos (not to mention awkward) then chants feed me more. I don't get how this guy is fun to watch?


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Yes.
Yep, me too.

Are you really asking whether Ryback fans enjoy seeing him perform? Every wrestler does the same shit; all but ten wrestlers lack mic skills (and Ryback is improving there, and that's all you can ask for cuz it takes time), and yes he has a chant. He's fun to watch because we, the viewers who don't make it our mission to shit on our favorite tv show, buy into his character.

Let's be clear on how they've booked him. He's not ready to be champion, which is why he was never going to be champion. Like Goldberg and Lesnar, the 'character' is supposed to be championship material, so they booked him as better than CM Punk, but kept the belt off of him nonetheless, and used the credibility and momentum from the Punk rivalry to put him in a rivalry with the Shield, OTHER newcomers who are pretty entertaining right from the start. So, if a yr from now he's better on the mic and more entertaining in the ring, or 2 yrs from now, they can put the belt on him, and not have to say "it took him this long to get here," cuz he'll have gotten screwed in the process.

And, as a huge Punk mark, I can say that the rivalry was great for CM Punk. The size difference emphasizes that Punk is a lying, coward, cheater who shouldn't be champion, and the cheating which was perfect for a Ryback storyline was perfect for Punk as heel. It gave us Maddox and Shield, and Heyman/Punk as the ultimate screwjob artists. It was a great storyline, promoted Punk and Ryback just as their characters are supposed to be promoted, led well into future storylines (Punk the heel who really needs heat, Ryback vs. Shield), and didn't result in Ryback being a permanent main event fixture.

In fact, Ryback was only put in the Punk rivalry (and thus pushed to the pt of getting the IWC to hate him) because Cena was injured. Who the hell knew that the backup story would be this good. Ryback is more popular than he was before, and his mic skills HAVE IMPROVED, Punk is more of a heel than he was before, and it gave us Shield vs. Ryback (and Shield vs. Ryback/Hell No at TLC was awesome). This is GREAT BOOKING. And, to the person quoted above, I am indeed entertained by it.
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And, as a huge Punk mark, I can say that the rivalry was great for CM Punk. The size difference emphasizes that Punk is a lying, coward, cheater who shouldn't be champion, and the cheating which was perfect for a Ryback storyline was perfect for Punk as heel. It gave us Maddox and Shield, and Heyman/Punk as the ultimate screwjob artists. It was a great storyline, promoted Punk and Ryback just as their characters are supposed to be promoted, led well into future storylines (Punk the heel who really needs heat, Ryback vs. Shield), and didn't result in Ryback being a permanent main event fixture.

In fact, Ryback was only put in the Punk rivalry (and thus pushed to the pt of getting the IWC to hate him) because Cena was injured. Who the hell knew that the backup story would be this good. Ryback is more popular than he was before, and his mic skills HAVE IMPROVED, Punk is more of a heel than he was before, and it gave us Shield vs. Ryback (and Shield vs. Ryback/Hell No at TLC was awesome). This is GREAT BOOKING. And, to the person quoted above, I am indeed entertained by it.
I disagree with this part. Punk vs Ryback was for me the weakest rivalry Punk has had in his reign because it was pretty one-sided story-wise (Ryback chasing Punk and Punk running, not a single relevant exchange of words), it was the only guy I think Punk didn't work really well with in the matches, and it set Punk up in the completely wrong way when you look at how they've planned Punk vs Rock. Rocky is saying what a badass Punk is, which works fine after every single feud Punk has had except for the Ryback one.

I don't think it did much good for Ryback either. Even though he was booked strong on the expense of credibility for Punk vs Rock he was still shown as a loser and lost momentum. People still chant for him but previously he got much bigger pops when he entered the arena, while it's now much more quiet until it's chanting time.

In short I think Punk vs Rock makes both guys look good while Punk vs Ryback made both look bad.
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