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Old 01-22-2013, 10:16 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Unable to work a good match at all unless Punk is in there
The longest matches he's had so far as against Punk. So obviously his best matches are going to be his longest, because he's able to sell and do alot of stuff in the match compared to his squash matches.


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Unable to work for 5 minutes without getting winded
I haven't seen that at all.

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Unable to perform his finisher consistently without botching (Heyman, Tensai)
I have no clue what happened with Heyman, but Tensai was obviously a sandbag. It was obvious when Ryback did the Shellshock on Tensai a few weeks later and it was flawless.

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Unable to cut even a below average promo
He's not supposed to be a really good talker, he's a monster. He talks on the mic to connect with the audience, but it's not a requirement for a guy who let's his actions speak louder than his words.

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Unbearably ugly (Literally one of the ugliest people I have ever seen)
How in the hell does this matter?

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From every non-kayfabe interview he's done, he comes off as a massively cocky douche bag.
I don't know where you see that. I see a guy who has ambition and doesn't look to highly of himself. Hell, he doesn't seem to mind the Goldberg chants. He feels it's a compliment.

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Lacks any sort of charisma or ability to connect to the crowd without his chant
His chant IS the way he connects with the crowd.

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Clearly a steroid user
Yep, so he's big. So he must be on steroids.

Ryback is one of the guys in the company that I feel can be the next top face. You may not agree, but look at him. He's got the size, skills, and ability. He's over as all hell, and his chant is over too. He's been in developmental/main roster for years, so he's got a shit-ton of experience.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:53 AM   #42 (permalink)
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-Unable to work a good match at all unless Punk is in there
-Unable to work for 5 minutes without getting winded
-Unable to perform his finisher consistently without botching (Heyman, Tensai)
-Unable to cut even a below average promo
-Unbearably ugly (Literally one of the ugliest people I have ever seen)
-From every non-kayfabe interview he's done, he comes off as a massively cocky douche bag.
-Lacks any sort of charisma or ability to connect to the crowd without his chant
-Clearly a steroid user

I legitimately don't mind the idea of pushing somebody straight from their debut, it creates long-term stars, but this guy who plays Ryback is horrible at EVERYTHING except for being big and muscular. He has literally no other attractive quality. Why did they not pick somebody better for this push? Are there no other guys in development, or in free agency that could do as well as Ryback with this push? The guy is just so damn terrible, and it took him a long time to get over.

Ryback is cool, Ryan Reeves is horrible.
You've clearly stretched your list of complaints wayyyyy too far. The only legitimate one is that he can barely cut a promo, just like all but 12ish guys on the roster, and yet Ryback is IMPROVING on the mic. Everything else is minor and to be improved upon, or bullshit.

-Winded after 5 minutes: look at Sheamus and other really big guys. It can even add to the drama of the match, especially since almost all wrestling matches are slow towards the end anyway.
-Unable to perform finisher consistently: and then citing two ppl. Congrats. He's fine. Its a Samoan drop. It'll be okay.
-Unable to cut below-avg promo: I would say his promos are above-average even though they suck. Only a dozen or so guys can cut promos, in case you haven't noticed. And, as I said before, he's improving on the mic, and he's already popular (they chant his catchphrase when his rivals are on the ring; I think that's the gold standard of popularity).
-Arrogant in real interviews: I disagree, having seen interviews, and don't give a shit either way.
-Lacks any charisma or ability to connect with the crowd with his chant: Umm... how do you connect more with the crowd than with them repeating your chant (and even initiating it when your rivals are in the ring). Are the fans supposed to be jerking off as they do it? Are they not laughing and smiling enough? Seriously, what does this mean. You're reaching for straws here.
-Clearly a steroid user: True, can't argue with that, but don't act like that's why you started this thread. Take a look at The Rock. Saying someone is a steroid user is also synonymous with "G-d damn, look at his body," which is generally a good thing. Unless you're reaching for reasons to hate the guy.

Like I said, he needs to seriously work on his promos. He should only be a midcarder right now, and, oh, that's right, he is just a midcarder right now. He had 3 months of a main event rivalry, where they never intended to put the belt on him, and now he's feuding with Shield. I'm pretty happy they turned what was a bunch of boring squash matches (though I still liked Ryback) into a legit feud with a bunch of new guys that makes all four of these new guys entertaining, and makes all of them play their character well. But, then again, I don't make it my life's goal to just shit on a guy for being successful.

They chant his catchphrase when his rivals are in the ring. If you don't think he's doing things right, you don't know entertainment.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:59 AM   #43 (permalink)
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This is hilarious. I honestly thought it was kids were the only ones digging the Ryback thing while adults were just going along with it for the sake of it. I'm honestly embarrassed to inhibit the same planet as some of you. I can understand not minding Ryback, but come on? You really want the dude to be a major part of the show you watch every week? let alone being the face of the company? Are you people who like Ryback the same people who made nickelback famous?
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I just can't wait for the day Triple H takes over and makes RAW what it was. He clearly sees actual talent since he's the head of developmental. He is the one that saved us from a Rytarded title reign when Vince thought it would be 'cool' to make Rybitch won the WWE title...
Gotta be the worst example of pretending to read the promoters' minds I've seen on this site. They were building towards Punk vs. Rock for half a yr (so no Ryback title reign), and every screwjob against Ryback has been an essential character development for CM Punk's cheating heel character (so no Ryback title reign), AND Ryback was only put in the title picture when John Cena got injured (it was a foregone conclusion Punk would face Cena at HIAC), but you, in all your infinite wisdom, have seen past this silly logic, have read the mind of the promoter who gave you every wrestler you've cared about, and concluded that he is in fact an idiot. And you even throw in 'cool,' as if you figured out that much from Vince's brain?

Oh, and 'Rytarded.' Clever. No one was planning to put the title on Ryback. If you really thought that was where the story was headed, then praise the WWE for being more unpredictable than its ever been. But its not. They were never going in that direction.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:33 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Default Re: Could WWE not have picked somebody more less terrible than Ryan Reeves for Ryback

Ryan Reeves isn't a bad talent at all. The character is simplistic, which means the smarks are less likely to buy it due to being ahead of a certain curve, but he's played the role just fine. The OP doesn't hate the wrestler, he hates the character, but Reeves has played the character well, so the line gets blurred.

On an objective level, he's done everything well enough to avoid criticism apart from his botching of finishers. I read through the threads and I hear people attack his recent promos, but did he perform the promos badly? Was he not convincing? Did he stumble over his words? Did he struggle to find things to say? No. So why is he bad on the mic? Because he doesn't have the witty banter of Sandow...witty banter that was likely scripted for him? These are characters. Sandow is scripted as witty so thats how we see him. Everybody has a role to play. All we can ask of these guys is to play it right. I'm no Ryback fan but that's clearly what he has done. He deserves his spot, smart ass fans be damned.
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I'm mixed on Ryback, the guy definitely freshened up the main event, but it definitely felt like his push was too fast. My big concern is, he almost killed Swagger and he injured Punk, and his matches aren't really that long, so what's the excuse? He's been in developmental for like 6 years.

His moveset just does not match up with him being a big man, and the whole thing with him not being able to shellshock Tensai looked very bad. Tensai may way a lot, but if the fact that the guy is a jobber which made it such a train wreck. If Goldberg wasn't able to Jackhammer the big show, I guarantee you it would've damaged the buzz he was getting big time.
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This is hilarious. I honestly thought it was kids were the only ones digging the Ryback thing while adults were just going along with it for the sake of it. I'm honestly embarrassed to inhibit the same planet as some of you. I can understand not minding Ryback, but come on? You really want the dude to be a major part of the show you watch every week? let alone being the face of the company? Are you people who like Ryback the same people who made nickelback famous?
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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:49 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I'm mixed on Ryback, the guy definitely freshened up the main event, but it definitely felt like his push was too fast. My big concern is, he almost killed Swagger and he injured Punk, and his matches aren't really that long, so what's the excuse? He's been in developmental for like 6 years.

His moveset just does not match up with him being a big man, and the whole thing with him not being able to shellshock Tensai looked very bad. Tensai may way a lot, but if the fact that the guy is a jobber which made it such a train wreck. If Goldberg wasn't able to Jackhammer the big show, I guarantee you it would've damaged the buzz he was getting big time.
Punk was already injured before he was power bombed through the table by Ryback. If you watched the match he had the week before he got power bombed by Ryback, you'll notice him favoring his knee during the match. The Swagger match was a mess, I agree. But it seemed like, to me at least, its was either Ryback deadlifting Swagger. Or Swagger was being an ass and didn't jump. The Tensai "botch" was obviously a sandbag. Sure, many people were calling foul on Ryback when it happened, and I understand how a person can come to that conclusion. But seeing as though he lifted Tensai with ease a mere few weeks later, I say it was a sandbag on Tensai's part.
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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Any one who defends Ryback is on some other shit. Can u really sit there and say that this guy entertains u? He doesn't, he does the same shit in his matches, cuts meaningless promos (not to mention awkward) then chants feed me more. I don't get how this guy is fun to watch?


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