Originally Posted by KeepinItReal

That's not how it works. They don't come up with a character and then find a wrestler to play the role, they find a role that fits the wrestler. If Batista didn't debut the same time as Lesnar, Batista prob would've gotten that same push, but they couldn't do two at the same time (and Lesnar was younger and an incredible athlete). Today, someone looking like Ryback showed up, so they went the Goldberg route with him.

Couldn't they find someone else? Just not how it works. You see a star, you promote them, and Ryback's a star. He's popular NOW, he's entertaining in the ring, and he's improving on the mic. I loved him five months ago, when he was a midcarder, cuz I don't think he's ready for the main event, but guess what, there's no belt on him. His storyline with Punk was a two month storyline that's now over, so he can feud with Shield, a bunch of midcarders. Its all good.

And btw, Lesnar was and is horrible on the microphone, though I agree he was better and more entertaining altogether. This is why I think Ryback should be a monster heel. He's perfect for that role in my opinion.

Originally Posted by KeepinItReal

That's not how it works. They don't come up with a character and then find a wrestler to play the role, they find a role that fits the wrestler. If Batista didn't debut the same time as Lesnar, Batista prob would've gotten that same push, but they couldn't do two at the same time (and Lesnar was younger and an incredible athlete). Today, someone looking like Ryback showed up, so they went the Goldberg route with him.

Couldn't they find someone else? Just not how it works. You see a star, you promote them, and Ryback's a star. He's popular NOW, he's entertaining in the ring, and he's improving on the mic. I loved him five months ago, when he was a midcarder, cuz I don't think he's ready for the main event, but guess what, there's no belt on him. His storyline with Punk was a two month storyline that's now over, so he can feud with Shield, a bunch of midcarders. Its all good.

And btw, Lesnar was and is horrible on the microphone, though I agree he was better and more entertaining altogether. This is why I think Ryback should be a monster heel. He's perfect for that role in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater

-Unable to work a good match at all unless Punk is in there - Really ? You have barely seen him wrestle other than a few matches.
-Unable to work for 5 minutes without getting winded - Disagree. I think he's told to act like that, big and bad , huffing and puffing his chest and such.
-Unable to perform his finisher consistently without botching (Heyman, Tensai) - Agree with. I think he needs a different finisher ASAP. Hated the shellshock for a while now
-Unable to cut even a below average promo - Disagree. He has barely had any mic time on RAW. His promos as skip sheffield were pretty good imo.
-Unbearably ugly (Literally one of the ugliest people I have ever seen) - Don't know how this has any effect on character
-From every non-kayfabe interview he's done, he comes off as a massively cocky douche bag. - Same as above.
-Lacks any sort of charisma or ability to connect to the crowd without his chant - As much as I hate to say this, Having a chant is all that matters now-a-days. Although, I do agree he isn't very charamastic.
-Clearly a steroid user - You say this like it matters. Like it demerits hard work in the gym. It's exactly what Vince wants. What he has always wanted. TBH it's irrelevant.

I legitimately don't mind the idea of pushing somebody straight from their debut, it creates long-term stars, but this guy who plays Ryback is horrible at EVERYTHING except for being big and muscular. He has literally no other attractive quality. Why did they not pick somebody better for this push? Are there no other guys in development, or in free agency that could do as well as Ryback with this push? The guy is just so damn terrible, and it took him a long time to get over.

Ryback is cool, Ryan Reeves is horrible.

Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater

Ryback is not a star. Ryback is horrible. Ryback is not somebody that anything was seen in. The Shield are not destined for career mid-carding outside of a Vince fetish though, Ambrose is amazing and Reigns and Rollins are pretty good too, if somebody with a legitimate eye for talent and marketability was at the head of things, Ryback would not be a professional wrestler. Lesnar was good at wrestling and he still is, Lesnar is a 1 in a million athletic specimen who was an MMA champion while Ryback can't lift up Paul Heyman successfully and cannot work a match without getting insanely winded. Lesnar is also a more marketable guy because he is not untolerably ugly.

Orton was a guy where you could say that a star was seen. His face run was not too well received, but he still got pushed to the moon afterward. And, hate him or not, he certainly has been a successful star.

Originally Posted by KeepinItReal

That's not how it works. They don't come up with a character and then find a wrestler to play the role, they find a role that fits the wrestler. If Batista didn't debut the same time as Lesnar, Batista prob would've gotten that same push, but they couldn't do two at the same time (and Lesnar was younger and an incredible athlete). Today, someone looking like Ryback showed up, so they went the Goldberg route with him.

Couldn't they find someone else? Just not how it works. You see a star, you promote them, and Ryback's a star. He's popular NOW, he's entertaining in the ring, and he's improving on the mic. I loved him five months ago, when he was a midcarder, cuz I don't think he's ready for the main event, but guess what, there's no belt on him. His storyline with Punk was a two month storyline that's now over, so he can feud with Shield, a bunch of midcarders. Its all good.

And btw, Lesnar was and is horrible on the microphone, though I agree he was better and more entertaining altogether. This is why I think Ryback should be a monster heel. He's perfect for that role in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister

70% of this forum, if not higher, are morons.

Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater

Impact already is the best wrestling show, but it's not viewed as much as WWE is.