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Old 01-19-2013, 11:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The reason I would give the edge to Jericho is because he managed to be a pretty big shark in a pool full of HUGE sharks. CM Punk really only has Cena in his way. The fact that Jericho managed to be more relevant in a much more(like 10000X more) competitive environment is why IMO he gets this one.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I would like to cunt punch you repeatedly and throw you into a cell with CM Spunk.
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He surpassed Jericho before Jericho even returned. Jericho's always been a drifter on the card, going for one place to the next. He hasn't been a consistent world title player for 2 straight years.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:08 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Yeah marks wether you want to admit it or not he has and I fucking love Jericho...

More 5 star performances Punk only has one five star match in WWE, and it was only 5 stars because of the storyline
More legendary promo's Again, how many does Punk even have? One?
Wasn't a transitional champion His era was far more star-packed than the current era is. The title moved a lot back then due to said stars.
Is actually a top star (Jericho was always a jobber to the stars sadly) See my last statement
Legendary Indy career as opposed to Jericho's legendary pro wrestling career?
More over than Jericho (MITB 11) No he isn't. And one PPV in a wrestler's hometown vs Cena at the peak of the anti-Cena hate era doesn't count for how over someone is in general
His most memorable moment is bigger than Jericho's( which was his debut) That's debatable, and just opinion either way
Give or take on the mic both are GODS Neither one are mic gods, though Jericho's promos were consistently better on average imo
Looked more credible jobbing to HHH than Jericho lol cool story bro
Led stables stables that failed. Most of the wrestlers in both stables he led were fired. The ones that weren't (yet) have amounted to nothing

I'm talking in WWE world and in the real world ....anybody agree
Definitely don't agree. Only a year and a half of being more than moderately relevant doesn't push him past Chris Jericho.

Maybe in a few years if CM Punk can get even more over and not diminish his performances any, then maybe it'll be an argument.
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Didn't need a thread, this is already known and has been known for well over a year now. Punk has surpassed Jericho a long time ago.
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Punk had the whole WWE behind him from the day 1. Jericho had to go through so much shit like Chyna, Stephanie, Coffee Pee feud.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:46 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Punk had the whole WWE behind him from the day 1. Jericho had to go through so much shit like Chyna, Stephanie, Coffee Pee feud.


Not only that but look at the roster you had back then,hell His debut was against Rock and not the let me put you over nice guy you got now but The burying machine you had back then,he fought his way up the ladder and became the first undisputed champion beating the 2 biggest stars in the company in the same night and yet people say Punk pass him cause of his worked shoot?

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Old 01-20-2013, 01:28 AM   #38 (permalink)
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The reason I would give the edge to Jericho is because he managed to be a pretty big shark in a pool full of HUGE sharks. CM Punk really only has Cena in his way. The fact that Jericho managed to be more relevant in a much more(like 10000X more) environment is why IMO he gets this one.
Once again, I agree.

I will give Punk props, because it's pretty damn hard to get over in an era with some intense restrictions. Created a GREAT persona, and his ability on the mic and great selling in the ring made him all that much better.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:52 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Yeah, Punk/Cena was sloppy. Some miscommunication, some botches. Doesn't merit 5. High 4.
Many so-called "perfect" albums and movies are full of technical errors; I'm sure one could pick apart "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Casablanca" all evening long if they wanted to. Punk and Cena wasn't a technical masterpiece, but it will be remembered as THE turning point of CM Punk's career, and a moment in time in general. Honestly, Austin/Bret at 13 wasn't really worthy of five stars either, as half the match was spent brawling through the crowd (hardly what I'd call the makings of an all-time classic wrestling contest), but it still is remembered for its importance. Sometimes matches transcend the norm and serve as time capsules. Punk and Cena at MITB '11 was one of them. I don't think anybody was going into it expecting a wrestling clinic, but this match is still perfect in my eyes due to what it accomplished, the atmosphere it produced (brilliant crowd) and how memorable it is, some 17-18 months after the fact.

Something like Rock/Cena is a match WWE would hype up as being "the best," and it was even given a Slammy for such. Despite the match not being too good, WWE still markets it as such to its fanbase. But Punk/Cena was made by the people who paid a ticket to see it, and WWE didn't market it like that until after the fact. Plus, I personally never got chills watching too many matches outside of the Punk/Cena match. When I was watching, I knew I was seeing something historic. Everything clicked and it felt like magic was in the air. Been to a lot of shows, seen many more, and I can't compare that feeling.
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Jesus Christ. Is there going to be a "Punk has surpassed..." thread every time a legend comes back to put Punk over? Jericho tries to put over Punk at the detriment of his own career, seriously that feud made Jericho look terrible, and Punk's crazy marks can't even show an iota of gratitude for his efforts.
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