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Old 01-18-2013, 09:49 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I see CM Punk is still a white belt. He sure has made a lot of strides since the last time it was publicized that Punk was training with him in jiu jitsu a long time ago. . .still being a white belt and all.

I question whether he actually trains or if this is just a publicity stunt. How can he possibly still be a white belt if he's really training?
Yeah, it would also kind of suggest that all the people going, "Punk could definitely beat Rock or Ryback in a real fight" were basing this off of Punk having the same level in BJJ as any person who goes to a class for the first time.

I think in this thread people are also overrating BJJ, its a style for fighting on the ground (for the most part), even being well trained in this, you'd still be likely to lose to a good boxer or Muay Thai fighter.
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Nope Punk has never said he is trained in MMA, he has said he "trains/practices" Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, Kempo Karate, and Muah Thai Kickboxing but has never claimed to be a master in any of those. This thread is basically full of Ignorant Punk haters coming in to shit on everything Punk related like they usually while "Punk fans" defend the stupid outlandish claims as usual. There are zero Punk fans making outlandish statements on here, so I'm sure it can easily be seen where the intelligence lies, but I digress.
I totally agree with this post. Punk only says he is the best wrestler in the world like many before him have done it's a gimmick. He never said he was the best mma or BJJ fighter.
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Yeah, it would also kind of suggest that all the people going, "Punk could definitely beat Rock or Ryback in a real fight" were basing this off of Punk having the same level in BJJ as any person who goes to a class for the first time.

I think in this thread people are also overrating BJJ, its a style for fighting on the ground (for the most part), even being well trained in this, you'd still be likely to lose to a good boxer or Muay Thai fighter.
Why do people feel the need to make so many wild assumptions?
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Yeah, it would also kind of suggest that all the people going, "Punk could definitely beat Rock or Ryback in a real fight" were basing this off of Punk having the same level in BJJ as any person who goes to a class for the first time.

I think in this thread people are also overrating BJJ, its a style for fighting on the ground (for the most part), even being well trained in this, you'd still be likely to lose to a good boxer or Muay Thai fighter.
Having trained and competing in several kinds of striking and grappling forms (never MMA though) I'd say that when you put people that only know one style against each other the grapplers generally have the advantage in my experience. First of all my experience is that it's not as intuitive to defend against a submission grappler than a striker. There's also the aspect of that the striker has a shorter window to work in before it becomes a grappling match. As for boxers and muay thai fighters I'd prefer the muay thai style due to the clinch work and the knees. The traditional boxing stance is not optimal to defend takedowns in.

This comment is completely separate from which wrestlers could beat each other though.

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Yeah, it would also kind of suggest that all the people going, "Punk could definitely beat Rock or Ryback in a real fight" were basing this off of Punk having the same level in BJJ as any person who goes to a class for the first time.

I think in this thread people are also overrating BJJ, its a style for fighting on the ground (for the most part), even being well trained in this, you'd still be likely to lose to a good boxer or Muay Thai fighter.
CM Punk couldn't beat anyone in real life.
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Having trained and competing in several kinds of striking and grappling forms (never MMA though) I'd say that when you put people that only know one style against each other the grapplers generally have the advantage in my experience. First of all my experience is that it's not as intuitive to defend against a submission grappler than a striker. There's also the aspect of that the striker has a shorter window to work in before it becomes a grappling match. As for boxers and muay thai fighters I'd prefer the muay thai style due to the clinch work and the knees. The traditional boxing stance is not optimal to defend takedowns in.

This comment is completely separate from which wrestlers could beat each other though.
Yeah I can see where your coming from. I think my viewpoint is probably clouded because I'm quite a big guy, so I've personally found it easier to defend against good grapplers that good strikers, because IMO size matters so much more in grappling than in striking.
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Yeah I can see where your coming from. I think my viewpoint is probably clouded because I'm quite a big guy, so I've personally found it easier to defend against good grapplers that good strikers, because IMO size matters so much more in grappling than in striking.
That's a valid point. I'm not too big myself (competed at about MMA's welterweight limit) and I experienced that it certainly required to reach a good level of technique to deal with the big gym guys so they couldn't just power out of what I was doing.
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