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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

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No, it's still the same shit because you still don't have any proof of him being a BJJ practitioner. Just some shitty pictures and a pathetic video.

"On February 13, 2012 Punk appeared alongside his friend and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) coach Rener Gracie for an edition of Gracie Breakdown, a youtube series that explains mixed martial arts matches and specifically the BJJ techniques used in them, to help explain the techniques used in the UFC 4 match between Royce Gracie and Dan Severn" - the only thing about BJJ on CM Punk's Wiki page. lol
You have to be one of the worst Punk trolls on here, along with Hawksea and Choke2Death (which is a very fitting name for when one reads his posts). Look at all that red rep you have, you must get neg repped for every single post you make which proves that you have zero reliability as a good poster.

As far as proof here's some for you, although you will probably try and discredit it since it's from Heymanhustle.

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WWE Champion CM Punk has been training with Rener Gracie and his father, UFC co-founder Rorion Gracie, who is a ninth degree red belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and is the oldest son of legendary patriarch.

Helio Gracie.

Joining the Gracies and Punk in the training session was Ed O'Neill.Yup, Al Bundy. And by the way, he's a 22 year student of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and he was awarded a black belt by Rorion Gracie in 2007. Uh huh. Al Bundy's a bad ass.
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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

I see CM Punk is still a white belt. He sure has made a lot of strides since the last time it was publicized that Punk was training with him in jiu jitsu a long time ago. . .still being a white belt and all.

I question whether he actually trains or if this is just a publicity stunt. How can he possibly still be a white belt if he's really training?
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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

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Reported. This isn't the rants section, dude.
You don't know the difference between any section. You posts never make any sense at all.

You come into this thread immediately trolling and hating on Punk, with your stupid gillzone videos.

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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

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No, it's still the same shit because you still don't have any proof of him being a BJJ practitioner. Just some shitty pictures and a pathetic video.

"On February 13, 2012 Punk appeared alongside his friend and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) coach Rener Gracie for an edition of Gracie Breakdown, a youtube series that explains mixed martial arts matches and specifically the BJJ techniques used in them, to help explain the techniques used in the UFC 4 match between Royce Gracie and Dan Severn" - the only thing about BJJ on CM Punk's Wiki page. lol.
Yes I do, and I gave it to you in the other thread where you tried to claim that. I gave you the link to an article on Gracie Academy where it showed that Punk trains regularly with Rener Gracie. How desperate you come off when you try to forget that part.

And you still haven't explained why you have dragged MMA into discussions about BJJ. There's not much other conclusions to draw that you don't know the difference, otherwise you'd have stopped the first time I told you.
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I see CM Punk is still a white belt. He sure has made a lot of strides since the last time it was publicized that Punk was training with him in jiu jitsu a long time ago. . .still being a white belt and all.

I question whether he actually trains or if this is just a publicity stunt. How can he possibly still be a white belt if he's really training?
Is it really that hard to figure out? He's on the road traveling 300+ days a year. From what I gather he rarely gets a chance to train.

Unless you expect the Gracies to follow him everywhere.
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I see CM Punk is still a white belt. He sure has made a lot of strides since the last time it was publicized that Punk was training with him in jiu jitsu a long time ago. . .still being a white belt and all.

I question whether he actually trains or if this is just a publicity stunt. How can he possibly still be a white belt if he's really training?
He has been quoted saying that he wears the white belt because he's not trying to start any fights with "wanna-be toughguys" that come up and challenge him. He wears the belt because he just wants to train in peace.

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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

To be fair, someone as busy as CM Punk must be, it's impressive if he finds the time to do anything like this on a regular basis.

Also, I just replied to the thread, but in essence of the argument, did CM Punk actually say he is MMA trained or anything like that, or is this simply Extreme Punk fans VS Extreme Punk haters? Not to piss anyone off, I suppose I just have little interest in it, or not enough to try to get attention for it, but has anyone any evidence as the where CM Punk claims to be a bad ass and/or that he has claimed to be MMA trained or anything but practicing in martial arts? I'm completely ignorant in it and feel like I'm missing a lot from this discussion.

Also... There is an ignore list on a public forum? I'm amazed at that. I could never bring myself to ignore someone for disagreeing with me, nor if they were king of the trolls. Bizarre.

Finally, threads like this either amuse me or make me pity the way people actually think. How can a picture of CM Punk, Gracies and an actor who has no relevance on this forum apart from being in this picture cause such a debate it forces massive opinion divides, arguments, trolling and nonsensical discussion meandering? If you see this picture and your first thought is to shit on CM Punk then you must know you're a troll, and opposite if you see this as a point to counteract and say how tough Punk really is then there isn't really a point.

This is just a cool picture of interesting people together seemingly having a laugh. How it can get from that to people resorting to childish name calling, block lists and threats is beyond me.
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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

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He has been quoted saying that he wears the white belt because he's not trying to start any fights with "wanna-be toughguys" that come up and challenge him. He wears the belt because he just wants to train in peace.
Yeah, makes perfect sense. People wouldn't challenge him because he's the celebtiry wrestler CM Punk, but they would totally be on that shit if his belt color was a higher grade than white.

Good thing he can hide his indentity by wearing a white colored belt.

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Is it really that hard to figure out? He's on the road traveling 300+ days a year. From what I gather he rarely gets a chance to train.

Unless you expect the Gracies to follow him everywhere.
That's exactly my point actually. He rarely trains. He's not a martial artist.
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Re: CM Punk training in Jiu Jitsu with Gracie and Ed "Al Bundy" O'Neill

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I see CM Punk is still a white belt. He sure has made a lot of strides since the last time it was publicized that Punk was training with him in jiu jitsu a long time ago. . .still being a white belt and all.

I question whether he actually trains or if this is just a publicity stunt. How can he possibly still be a white belt if he's really training?
Punk most likely doesn't have time to train the normal amount seeing how he's on the road, so it's not that strange. Even if you train 2-3 times per week it will generally take you about two years to reach blue belt level. While Gracie Academy says that Punk trains regularly with Rener I think he'd have to strain his schedule to be able to train once per week, so it's possible that Punk stays a white belt for several years.

In BJJ you generally don't advance as fast in the degrees as you do in arts like karate etc (the traditional Japanese arts usually have a tighter structure to that as well). Of course things differ even between styles within the same martial art, as well as with different teachers, but the original norm in BJJ is quite slow advancement (they also have fewer degrees than most traditional belt systems) and the Gracies are as original as you get.

To put it in some MMA context, Anderson Silva captured the Shooto title and fought in PRIDE while he was a blue belt.

So I don't think it's just a publicity stunt, although that aspect is of course always present since the sport and the gym of course gets more attention through it.

Edit: I was late and didn't see Thanos' comment. I didn't know Punk had said that.
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To be fair, someone as busy as CM Punk must be, it's impressive if he finds the time to do anything like this on a regular basis.

Also, I just replied to the thread, but in essence of the argument, did CM Punk actually say he is MMA trained or anything like that, or is this simply Extreme Punk fans VS Extreme Punk haters? Not to piss anyone off, I suppose I just have little interest in it, or not enough to try to get attention for it, but has anyone any evidence as the where CM Punk claims to be a bad ass and/or that he has claimed to be MMA trained or anything but practicing in martial arts? I'm completely ignorant in it and feel like I'm missing a lot from this discussion.

Also... There is an ignore list on a public forum? I'm amazed at that. I could never bring myself to ignore someone for disagreeing with me, nor if they were king of the trolls. Bizarre.

Finally, threads like this either amuse me or make me pity the way people actually think. How can a picture of CM Punk, Gracies and an actor who has no relevance on this forum apart from being in this picture cause such a debate it forces massive opinion divides, arguments, trolling and nonsensical discussion meandering? If you see this picture and your first thought is to shit on CM Punk then you must know you're a troll, and opposite if you see this as a point to counteract and say how tough Punk really is then there isn't really a point.

This is just a cool picture of interesting people together seemingly having a laugh. How it can get from that to people resorting to childish name calling, block lists and threats is beyond me.
Nope Punk has never said he is trained in MMA, he has said he "trains/practices" Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, Kempo Karate, and Muah Thai Kickboxing but has never claimed to be a master in any of those. This thread is basically full of Ignorant Punk haters coming in to shit on everything Punk related like they usually while "Punk fans" defend the stupid outlandish claims as usual. There are zero Punk fans making outlandish statements on here, so I'm sure it can easily be seen where the intelligence lies, but I digress.

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