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Old 01-17-2013, 06:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...face_Soon.html

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- There has been a lot of internal talk about Dolph Ziggler's future lately.

As noted, officials have discussed breaking Big E Langston away from Ziggler and AJ Lee but it sounds like he might stay with AJ. They are discussing this not because of a possible Langston face turn but because of a Ziggler babyface turn.

Vince McMahon has been changing his mind back and forth on Ziggler as a babyface but it's more when and not if. A lot of people in the company feel that Ziggler will take off huge as a babyface when the call is made. The fact that Ziggler is already popular in the New York market is said to be influencing Vince's decision.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would like to see a babyface Ziggler, just for the sole fact that he might actually win a match.
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Ziggler is on a roll, he needs to become over a heel 1st before coming a face
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So he'll job with the crowd's cheering him, just like Kofi and Miz. What's changed?
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I'd rather a slow burn face turn for Dolph over the next year rather than a Miz/Del Rio turn

Let him properly get the show off gimmick over and in time that will naturally turn him face
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His got that car wreck Hardy HBK approach so why not?
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Default Re: Backstage News On Why Ziggler Might Turn Babyface Soon

I do like Ziggler as a heel, but I still think he's more suited to being a heel, and I think the AJ/Ziggler partnership has a lot more in it.

I fear they'll turn him into another John Morrison though. Suddenly turn him face, strip him of any character, not give him any mic time and try to rely on ring work alone to make him popular with the crowd.
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I do like Ziggler as a heel, but I still think he's more suited to being a heel, and I think the AJ/Ziggler partnership has a lot more in it.

I fear they'll turn him into another John Morrison though. Suddenly turn him face, strip him of any character, not give him any mic time and try to rely on ring work alone to make him popular with the crowd.
That ought to be pretty easy since it doesn't exist.

Trying to get Ziggler over with his ring work instead of mic work is a good idea too. That mic work ain't getting over.
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Default Re: Backstage News On Why Ziggler Might Turn Babyface Soon

They need to do it before Mania, he's gunna get cheered like crazy in NJ.

The crowd will shit on the Orton/Sheamus WH title match with 'We Want Ziggler' chants anyway.
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Default Re: Backstage News On Why Ziggler Might Turn Babyface Soon

Live show reports tend to tell us that Ziggler is in fact over. He does get heat. Trying to rely on ring work alone really never works, especially if the crowd have nothing or no reason to get behind a face and without mic time to try to get a character over they really don't have much of a reason to cheer or give any reaction.

A generic heel is always better than a generic face. You can at least determine that Ziggler is cocky, confident, he shows off, he takes short cuts etc. A face without any characteristics...you can only really describe him as being a 'good guy', it's far more easy to get cheat heel heat than try to get the crowd to cheer you.
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