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Old 01-24-2013, 03:03 PM   #171 (permalink)
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No one remembers Flex Kavana EVERYONE remembers Dolph as NICKY!!!!! There is no joy in watching Ziggler atleast i could laugh at Nicky. Ziggles is a channel changer. I will give him credit hes "ok" in the ring but he just recycled Billys moves.He is just a mid to low carder nothing more. He doesn't have the "IT" factor.Like i said befor if he left no one would notice
What wrestlers do you think are ahead of Ziggler? Cena, Punk, Orton, Sheamus, Del Rio, Cesaro, Bryan? I'd love to know by what standards Ziggler is just "ok," whether in terms of character or in-ring skills.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:09 PM   #172 (permalink)
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No one remembers Flex Kavana EVERYONE remembers Dolph as NICKY!!!!! There is no joy in watching Ziggler atleast i could laugh at Nicky. Ziggles is a channel changer. I will give him credit hes "ok" in the ring but he just recycled Billys moves.He is just a mid to low carder nothing more. He doesn't have the "IT" factor.Like i said befor if he left no one would notice
Yep I agree. If he got fired, and went to TNA, I would change the channel to see him.
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i wonder what kind of a moveset ziggler would have as a face
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i wonder what kind of a moveset ziggler would have as a face


his current one... It screams babyface
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What wrestlers do you think are ahead of Ziggler? Cena, Punk, Orton, Sheamus, Del Rio, Cesaro, Bryan? I'd love to know by what standards Ziggler is just "ok," whether in terms of character or in-ring skills.
It's the character. I already said he is ok in the ring even if he just stole it all from The ass man. He is a midcarder at best. AJ gets more heat than he does that right there should say it all
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It's the character. I already said he is ok in the ring even if he just stole it all from The ass man. He is a midcarder at best. AJ gets more heat than he does that right there should say it all
Ok, what characters are better? Punk, Cena, Orton, Ryback, Sandow, Sheamus, Del Rio, Miz, Ambrose? Who? I think your standards are way too high to say he doesn't have a main event character. Hell, I personally think he's only behind Punk and Cena, but that's just my opinion. But to say he's not even a main eventer? Who is a main eventer by your standards?
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i wonder what kind of a moveset ziggler would have as a face
I think the Zig-Zag is the kind of finisher that gets over like the RKO. Because it can come instantaneously and out of pretty much nowhere. People like that.
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It's the character. I already said he is ok in the ring even if he just stole it all from The ass man. He is a midcarder at best. AJ gets more heat than he does that right there should say it all
Have you ever thought, that people like Ziggler, they do not want to boo? Of course not, you are so hung up on The Ass Man - who you wanted to see as a main event, but was a jobber.
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I simply must be honest: only stupid people compare Dolph Ziggler to Billy Gunn. If Gunn had 10% of Ziggler's talent, he'd still be in WWE today.

I know this because Gunn is still in phenomenal shape. There was only one problem with Gunn: when separated from Road Dogg.....NO ONE GAVE A GODDAMN SHIT.
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Ok, what characters are better? Punk, Cena, Orton, Ryback, Sandow, Sheamus, Del Rio, Miz, Ambrose? Who? I think your standards are way too high to say he doesn't have a main event character. Hell, I personally think he's only behind Punk and Cena, but that's just my opinion. But to say he's not even a main eventer? Who is a main eventer by your standards?
How about all of the above except miz and sandow even though i like sandow he is a midcarder. You might like Ziggler but to me the guy is garbage and im not in the minority on this. A main eventer is someone who can be entertaining,zig is not that guy

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