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Not at all I like Punk but I stand by my statement Ziggler is a carbon copy of billy gun just toned down to PG. He is boring, the guy is garbage if he left he would not be missed. And whats wrong with the Attitude era it was better than what we have now and thats a fact jack
Right, but not EVERYONE in the AE is better than the present. You can't just say "this guy was entertaining, and he looks like this new guy, so therefore its old guy 2.0." Like I said before, Gunn couldn't cut a promo, and he wasn't nearly as good of an in-ring performer. The only similarities are the blonde hair and they smile a lot. Ziggler has a character.

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Right, but not EVERYONE in the AE is better than the present. You can't just say "this guy was entertaining, and he looks like this new guy, so therefore its old guy 2.0." Like I said before, Gunn couldn't cut a promo, and he wasn't nearly as good of an in-ring performer. The only similarities are the blonde hair and they smile a lot. Ziggler has a character.
Ziggler can't cut a promo either and Billy Gunn was WAYYYYYY better in ring

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Ziggler can't cut a promo either and Billy Gunn was WAYYYYYY better in ring
Nope and nope.

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Yes and Yes. Ziggles is crap and if you can't see that you are what is wrong with wrestling, he will Never be taken as a serious threat to anyone. All i see when he comes on the screen is a guy screming NICKY!!!!!
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Re: Backstage News On Why Ziggler Might Turn Babyface Soon

I think the fact that Ziggler has been saddled with the Australian promo tour is a good sign that WWE are firmly behind him. I don't think it means that he's going to turn face at any point in the near future, but shows that they see him as one of their dependable PR guys. Much in the same way that The Miz has been used.
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Yes and Yes. Ziggles is crap and if you can't see that you are what is wrong with wrestling, he will Never be taken as a serious threat to anyone. All i see when he comes on the screen is a guy screming NICKY!!!!!
Lol liking the next world champ is what's wrong with wrestling. Got it. I apologize for wrestling sucking today. I'm so so sorry.

Oh, and everybody had a different gimmick at some pt. Batista was a deacon, Kane was a dentist, Rock was a happy islander and then a member of a black nationalist group (yes, that's what NOD was), Austin was a pretty boy with long blonde hair, Undertaker was Mean Mark Callous-deadman-biker-deadman...

If when you look at Dolph Ziggler today all you can think of is Nicky, I think you're what's wrong with wrestling: you just won't give him a shot, even when he improves a thousandfold. I don't say Daniel Bryan was a main eventer two yrs ago when he was a relatable geek, he's a main eventer for his mic skills and entertainment value TODAY. If Ziggler is just Nicky to you, then I'm sorry you can't buy into character reboots. It must suck having to watch Flex Kavana main event WrestleMania .

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Ziggler can't cut a promo either and Billy Gunn was WAYYYYYY better in ring
If Ziggler can't cut a promo, then who can? Cena? Punk? Orton? Who's better than Dolph Ziggler? I swear today's wrestlers are held to make-believe standards. Ziggler is one of the best on the mic today, and he actually has different things to say. Seriously, how many guys on this roster are better on the mic than he is? I like Sheamus and Del Rio, and they're shit compared to Ziggler, as well as if you're judging by in-ring ability. And Orton's horrible too, btw. I swear, to say Billy Gunn is better than Dolph Ziggler is just nostalgia. There's no other explanation for it. They reduced Billy Gunn to a gay stereotype!!! WWE didn't like Gunn's microphone ability; when he came back at Raw 1000 and spoke for ten seconds an online article popped up saying the writers were surprised how much he improved.

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Flex Kavana!

Bad gimmicks don't kill the product, cynical fans who are religiously opposed to joy kill the product.

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Flex Kavana!

Bad gimmicks don't kill the product, cynical fans who are religiously opposed to joy kill the product.
No one remembers Flex Kavana EVERYONE remembers Dolph as NICKY!!!!! There is no joy in watching Ziggler atleast i could laugh at Nicky. Ziggles is a channel changer. I will give him credit hes "ok" in the ring but he just recycled Billys moves.He is just a mid to low carder nothing more. He doesn't have the "IT" factor.Like i said befor if he left no one would notice

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