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Old 01-18-2013, 06:40 AM   #91 (permalink)
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'Super Ziggler'? Really? As a face i see him being more like Shawn Michaels, who was extremely over but usually lost the big important matches, though he still stole the show. However there's nothing wrong with being a 'Super ____' because the company needs credible top superstars for people to get behind.

There is everything wrong with being a "super _________" the top guys should lose cleanly more times than they do.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:58 AM   #92 (permalink)
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You know who else was popular in the new york market?

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You know who else was popular in the new york market?

But Ziggler's really talented in ring. Which Zack was average at best, and hated by someone in the back.
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Im so used with Ziggler as heel so canīt see him as face. I do think he will do an awsome job as face. Maybe turn Ziggler face and Miz back to heel.
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There is everything wrong with being a "super _________" the top guys should lose cleanly more times than they do.
uhh no they shouldn't, there's a reason they're the top guys, them losing cleanly is a rare thing. Specially the face of the company himself. The product is aimed for normal fans who actually like the good guys and support for the best, it makes no sense booking wise to have the 'best' losing cleanly as much as the IWC wants, that is outright stupid. And don't expect to see top guys losing cleanly more often in the future either, no one will do that just to please the IWC.
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There is everything wrong with being a "super _________" the top guys should lose cleanly more times than they do.


They wouldn't be the top guys if they lose cleanly anymore and instead of establishing guys has top guys realistically, you will have a roster of anybody beating anybody and you won't be able to pick out who the top guy is. The top guys are suppose to win 75-90% of their matches anyway.
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Are you fucking kidding me, WWE?

HOW MANY TOP GUYS DO YOU NEED TO TURN FACE? In the past five or six months, we have seen face turns for Kane, Daniel Bryan, The Miz, and Alberto Del Rio. As of right now, the only main event heels are Punk, Show, and Ziggler. Why the FLYING FUCK do you feel the need to turn another motherfucker(again, one of the most hateable guys in the company) face? Why do you insist on writing yourself into a corner?
Because Vince is at the point where he's trying to turn anyone who can make an extra dollar face. He turned R-Truth face for Lil Jimmy merchandise that never sold. And while WWE always has to be mindful of economics and profit, they are ruining themselves creatively. WWE doesn't have enough heels to build up and solidify all of these faces. And because of it, no one gets over and no one buys any merchandise in bulk that doesn't have Cena's name on it.
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I feel like a 100% over world champion heel Dolph Ziggler who wins matches and is allowed to carry on the way he is, could probably end up being turned face by the fans anyway.

Keep him heel for now, he has his fans but also he can work on the side of the heels to beef it out a bit whilst still prepping him behind the scenes for a face turn. I reckon come 6 months time if he carries on the way he is, he can turn face easily with the crowd completely behind him.
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Can't they just lose AJ and Big E and book him as a tweener, he doesn't have to exactly be one or the other, just let it progress naturally and let the crowd decide FOR ONCE
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Can't they just lose AJ and Big E and book him as a tweener, he doesn't have to exactly be one or the other, just let it progress naturally and let the crowd beside FOR ONCE


He might by better off without AJ and Big E
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