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silverspirit2001 · 01-15-2013, 02:41 AM

I know everyone is going to be angry, and Ziggler will again, hit 17 finishers and lose to 1 AA.

But it is going to happen.

Why?

Because their are no other main event heels. Seriously, Their are only 3 main event heels in the company, Big Show who is chasing ADR, Punk who is feuding with the Rock, and Ziggler who has the money in the bank briefcase to give him "legitimacy".

Does not Vince realize how unbalanced it makes the product? Main event is Dolph vs Sheamus (again), Smackdown will likely be Big Show and Ziggler vs ADR and Sheamus/Orton. No wonder heels are booked cowardly for the most part, they cannot face mid card faces to gain credibility and clean wins, because they are too busy facing the top faces.

I know they are seeming to plan on Orton going heel - which will probably fail. And can they trust him, will injuries and 2 strikes? Or more importantly his match on raw in which, at least I sensed he did not want to be there and was phoning the match in with a distinct lack of passion?

Anyway, to conclude this rant, Vince sees the money making potential of faces - but has forgotten that you need heels to go over.

TheAussieRocket · 01-15-2013, 02:46 AM

They're trying to make Cena bigger going into the Rumble and burying Ziggler and this shitty storyline in the process.

Rayfu · 01-15-2013, 02:47 AM

Um guys get your eyes check only one or two finshers where used and durring one of them Dolph tried to climb out rather then pin

this was a nomral match in that regaurd

silverspirit2001 · 01-15-2013, 02:50 AM

The thread is about the lack of main event heels

Rayfu · 01-15-2013, 02:54 AM

It's not WWE fault IMO, they try, the thing is fans in genreal dont care either way anymore,look at how many guys flip flop becuse the fans dont care, its not causr the pepole are not good, its something else, I dont know what but its something else.

ted316 · 01-15-2013, 04:29 AM

The WWE seem to have forgotten that a face can only be as good as the heel they go up against.

For example Stone Cold was up against Vince McMahon - although they still had SCSA come out on top more often than not Vince was a powerful heel character. It made the feud seem to be believable.

Because the heels are so few and WWE seems to want faces to all follow the super-cena mould it means we have a lot of 'cowardly' heels. Usually when a face turns heel they suddenly become cowardly. WWE should get a couple of heels who seem dominant and not just a monster heel which is normally option 2. Someone like a HHH or even an angry version of Sheamus going around picking fights just because he likes to fight.

I'm hoping with the shield coming up it will eventually lead to some strongly booked heels (no need to mention Punk as obviously since switching to heel he has started cheating to win - apparently heels can't win clean unless they are the generic monster heel)

Eulonzo · 01-15-2013, 04:46 AM

Their match last night was awesome, so as long as it's good next week like it was last night, I don't care that much.

dougfisher_05 · 01-15-2013, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ted316

For example Stone Cold was up against Vince McMahon - although they still had SCSA come out on top more often than not Vince was a powerful heel character. It made the feud seem to be believable.

Ok, woah, hold the phone. First Vince was portrayed as the evil owner of the company. So when Austin got the better of him he'd show up next week with Plan B to get his heat back. Why? Because he was the "evil" owner of the company. Two different characters, and Ziggler doesn't benefit of having being able to deal the upperhand after losing every night.

Eclairal · 01-15-2013, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rayfu

It's not WWE fault IMO, they try, the thing is fans in genreal dont care either way anymore,look at how many guys flip flop becuse the fans dont care, its not causr the pepole are not good, its something else, I dont know what but its something else.

Because the product is bad. You just can't care about the heels because they never do something really sooo bad that you just want to kill them. For exemple, look at Cena vs Ziggler. If on the New Year's Eve, Cena looked pissed, like what Dolph did was bad and that he have to paid for it, maybe Ziggler would be a better heel but the fact is that Ziggler is a joke and Cena consider him as a joke . He loses all his matches and Cena don't care that Dolph steal his girlfriend

UltimateOppitunist · 01-15-2013, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulonzo

Their match last night was awesome, so as long as it's good next week like it was last night, I don't care that much.

Ziggler getting buried by Cena was "awesome" match to you? Fuck off.