[BANKSY]

They didn't even hype Punk/Clay it was a 1 minute promo for Brodus talking about how Punk mentioned him last week then he came out.

[Evil Peter]

Originally Posted by Felpent

This is exactly why I don't want Austin/Punk. Punk just isn't a star in the casuals eyes. Punk pretending to be a badass against the Rock after running away from Ryback and other babyfaces, is not believable in the least.

Austin/Punk would only hurt Austin's big return after a decade. He can't even get close to the WM main event with Punk as opponent. Austin/Cena is the way to go.

Punk running away against one opponent and not against another has nothing whatsoever to do with him being a star or not. It's scripted entertainment and therefor the fault of the writers for not building a consistent bridge between the feuds. His stardom affects completely different things.

As for Austin not being near the WM main event, that makes me laugh. He'd have a great chance at main eventing with a lot of guys as he's seen by many as the all time great and suggesting that he'll only be there with Cena is a bit insulting towards him. Not that it really matters as Punk is the opponent because Austin wants to work with him.

[FreakyZo]

I swear to god this is the worst thread on the forum filled with delusional Rock marks and trolls. It should just be closed

[kokepepsi]

how is that overrun possible when it went 15minutes

shit

[Felpent]

Originally Posted by Evil Peter

Punk running away against one opponent and not against another has nothing whatsoever to do with him being a star or not. It's scripted entertainment and therefor the fault of the writers for not building a consistent bridge between the feuds. His stardom affects completely different things.

As for Austin not being near the WM main event, that makes me laugh. He'd have a great chance at main eventing with a lot of guys as he's seen by many as the all time great and suggesting that he'll only be there with Cena is a bit insulting towards him. Not that it really matters as Punk is the opponent because Austin wants to work with him.

Well its the truth. Austin/Punk can main event if Vince allows it to go on last, thats not the issue. The problem is it won't be the key drawing match, Rock/Brock and Cena/Taker and possible HHH match would completely overshadow it.

I don't want fucking Stone Cold to be in the position Jericho was at WM 28 and thats where he would be with punk as opponent. If that's going to be the case, i'd rather Austin not return at all.

[The Lady Killer]

More detailed report just in:

MizTV with Ric Flair, The Miz and Antonio Cesaro gained 449,000 viewers at 10pm for the show's peak rating of 3.50. The elbow drop Flair delivered to his own jacket gained 357,000 of those viewers.

GOAT

[mblonde09]

Originally Posted by Rock316AE

Nothing to do with any storyline being "hot" or not. It's always happening when you cross the 15 minutes overrun because it also attract non-wrestling viewers.

3.7 is a great audience for a selling promo. But the 3 hour concept is killing everything. Nobody is willing to sit through 3 hours of RAW just to get to a 15 minutes segment. Me included. Plus, they didn't even advertised anything for the show beforehand, everything is on the spot promotion. Didn't even tell the audience that Rock is there next week.

The Rasslin' GOD! doing business even today Not surprising.

Ha, making up convenient excuses for Dwayne's poor numbers, I see. If Rock wasn't involved in that overrun, you would've shit all over it.

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

Don't you see how stupid it is?

So because a segment gained in which CM Punk was in, it's not down to him but The Rock and Ryback. Yet when they lose viewers, it's not because of the likes of Brodus Clay, it is in fact CM Punk.

Shits hilarious.

I wouldn't even bother with him. Not only is he a Punk-hating, troll... he genuinely believes over half a million people tuned in especially to see Ryback in the TLC match, and to see his shitty promo this week - despite the Divas taking up most of the quarter, and Ryback not even being advertised.

[Falkono]

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

I'm sorry but if I was to DVR Raw, which I don't, however I may have to start doing. I would fast forward through Punks match with Brodus fucking Clay. I'm a massive Punk fan and will tune in to any match of his when it's of a decent calibre or a promo of his, but even a match against Brodus Clay would make me tune out.

I think deep down you know you're (yes, that's right you're, not your) a Punk hater.

Okay so let me put it like this.....

If say Rock was wrestling Brodus Clay would you fast forward it? If Stone Cold was wrestling him? If Undertaker was wrestling him? If HBK was wrestling him? Hell even if Brock was wrestling him? You know you wouldn't so why is Punk any different? It isn't about who they are wrestling it is about the individual. Because by your own logic if Punk goes back to the mid-card and wrestles people around that level you will fast forward them. Meaning how much of a Punk fan would you really be? A draw is someone who pulls in viewers no matter who they face.

Secondly i'm not a Punk hater. I think he isn't as big a deal as people on here try and make out. Some people try and put him in the same bracket as people like Rock and Stone Cold and he shouldn't be there. Hell he is having the longest reign of any champion since 1983. Do I think he is that good? Hell no. So it isn't about hating him it is about pushing someone who isn't actually that good. So when these type of numbers come up it backs up that belief that other people don't think he is that big a deal either. 2012 was up there with the worst years in terms of entertainment level and ratings. Punk was champion for the entire year. That isn't saying he is to blame, far from it. It is saying he is one of the many reasons.

As for the English lesson, many thanks....But YOUR (not you're) opinion is wrong.

[roadkill_]

I didn't watch it. Simply because I knew Cole, CM Punk, soccer moms and general shittiness isn't a trade off for even a Rock cameo. The Rock is no longer good enough to watch this vomit, especially if you can catch the 6 minutes out of 180 on YT.

[FreakyZo]

Originally Posted by Falkono

Okay so let me put it like this.....

If say Rock was wrestling Brodus Clay would you fast forward it? If Stone Cold was wrestling him? If Undertaker was wrestling him? If HBK was wrestling him? Hell even if Brock was wrestling him? You know you wouldn't so why is Punk any different? It isn't about who they are wrestling it is about the individual. Because by your own logic if Punk goes back to the mid-card and wrestles people around that level you will fast forward them. Meaning how much of a Punk fan would you really be? A draw is someone who pulls in viewers no matter who they face.

Secondly i'm not a Punk hater. I think he isn't as big a deal as people on here try and make out. Some people try and put him in the same bracket as people like Rock and Stone Cold and he shouldn't be there. Hell he is having the longest reign of any champion since 1983. Do I think he is that good? Hell no. So it isn't about hating him it is about pushing someone who isn't actually that good. So when these type of numbers come up it backs up that belief that other people don't think he is that big a deal either. 2012 was up there with the worst years in terms of entertainment level and ratings. Punk was champion for the entire year. That isn't saying he is to blame, far from it. It is saying he is one of the many reasons.

As for the English lesson, many thanks....But YOUR (not you're) opinion is wrong.

Simple Punk is there every week so if you miss him wrestle this week, don't worry you can see him next week. The same cant be said about Taker, Rock, Austin, Brock, etc you fucking troll.