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Old 01-31-2013, 01:56 PM   #761 (permalink)
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You're right.

I'm just wondering why you never apply this sort of logic when Punk is in a similar position.
To be fair, Punk can never claim that he sold out MSG or the Sun Life Stadium almost instantly after announcing that he'll be there, generate the biggest WM buyrate or make 1 million people tune in as soon as his music hit (Raw 1000). Therefore it's hard to defend Punk's shortcomings as anything but his inability to draw since it happens so often. Whereas for The Rock, it was his first "flop" ever since he returned.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:57 PM   #762 (permalink)
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Who cares about who draws. Geez.
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January 28th, 2013 - Quarter Hours
Q1 - 3.63 rating / 5.05 million
Q2 - 3.49 rating / 4.86 million
Q3 - 3.51 rating / 4.89 million
Q4 - 3.69 rating / 5.13 million
Q5 - 3.80 rating / 5.28 million
Q6 - 3.69 rating / 5.12 million
Q7 - 3.77 rating / 5.24 million
Q8 - 3.83 rating / 5.32 million
Q9 - 4.03 rating / 5.59 million
Q10 - 3.60 rating / 4.99 million
Q11 - 3.35 rating / 4.65 million
Q12 - 3.45 rating / 4.79 million
Overrun - 4.00 rating / 5.54 million
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:55 PM   #764 (permalink)
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To be fair, Punk can never claim that he sold out MSG or the Sun Life Stadium almost instantly after announcing that he'll be there, generate the biggest WM buyrate or make 1 million people tune in as soon as his music hit (Raw 1000). Therefore it's hard to defend Punk's shortcomings as anything but his inability to draw since it happens so often. Whereas for The Rock, it was his first "flop" ever since he returned.
That's not very relevant when the arguments (which were valid) used were general ones and not at all something unique for this scenario. If someone is selective and only uses such arguments when it suits him then he pretty much forfeits any credibility in such matters, so the guy you quoted had a relevant question.

This of course also shows how ignorant it is to jump at any wrestler for having one segment that happens to lose viewers. The Rock is the biggest star on the show and if that can happen on a quarter with him in it (the 10 PM quarter to boot) then it can obviously happen to anyone. Of course that's just common sense but despite it's name that's not too common.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:16 PM   #765 (permalink)
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To be fair, Punk can never claim that he sold out MSG or the Sun Life Stadium almost instantly after announcing that he'll be there, generate the biggest WM buyrate or make 1 million people tune in as soon as his music hit (Raw 1000). Therefore it's hard to defend Punk's shortcomings as anything but his inability to draw since it happens so often. Whereas for The Rock, it was his first "flop" ever since he returned.
Dude, nobody but the trolls actually thought Punk could outdrawn Rock, or counter trolls saying that Rock is washed up, you should be smarter than that. I don't really see your qualm here. Punk is one of the biggest guys of today, Rock is one of the biggest of all time. I don't see why you're trying to disprove Punks rating ability by comparing him to a GOAT. In fact, I'd say you're doing quite the opposite by putting him in side-by-side comparise with Rock seriously. Like I mentioned previously, not everybody can be Austin/Hogan/Rock (or Lesnar as a special case) level, and just because Punk isn't hitting 3.5s regularily doesn't make him a bad draw. I'd challenge you to find me any other current wrestlers that can even come close to The Rock, and no Cena is not one of them, his rating gains aren't even close to the the short-time bump did within three weeks.

People should learn to appreciate both guys for bringing together the best RTWM storyline so far, taking sides is totally ridiculous when the performance level is this high.
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Rock, can't draw? Da hell you guys talking about? He gained the highest quarter rating since Raw in a segment that also involved him. Do you honestly Punk was responsible for the 3.6 and 4.0 quarter viewership exposure Vince and Rock gave him?
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:06 PM   #767 (permalink)
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Dude, nobody but the trolls actually thought Punk could outdrawn Rock, or counter trolls saying that Rock is washed up, you should be smarter than that. I don't really see your qualm here. Punk is one of the biggest guys of today, Rock is one of the biggest of all time. I don't see why you're trying to disprove Punks rating ability by comparing him to a GOAT. In fact, I'd say you're doing quite the opposite by putting him in side-by-side comparise with Rock seriously. Like I mentioned previously, not everybody can be Austin/Hogan/Rock (or Lesnar as a special case) level, and just because Punk isn't hitting 3.5s regularily doesn't make him a bad draw. I'd challenge you to find me any other current wrestlers that can even come close to The Rock, and no Cena is not one of them, his rating gains aren't even close to the the short-time bump did within three weeks.

People should learn to appreciate both guys for bringing together the best RTWM storyline so far, taking sides is totally ridiculous when the performance level is this high.
Nobody in today's roster is on Rock's level but that just proves the point. I was just responding to the poster who told Rock316AE to "use this type of logic" used for The Rock but only applied for Punk instead. Only difference is, Punk is there every week and never does anything "wow" worthy whereas Rock has done it in about every single occasion save for the Shield segment that's been the discussion for the past few pages.

And quite frankly, Punk IS a bad draw but so is the entire roster except maybe Cena. If they weren't, Rock & Brock wouldn't be asked to come back every few months for a quick ratings/buyrates fix.
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Rock, can't draw? Da hell you guys talking about? He gained the highest quarter rating since Raw in a segment that also involved him. Do you honestly Punk was responsible for the 3.6 and 4.0 quarter viewership exposure Vince and Rock gave him?
I do. I don't think people tuned in to see Rock as champ, but if Punk was STILL the champ. Punk draws, probably more than Cena and Rock combined. He had the hottest merch of 2011, was selling it like hotcakes in 2012, easily headlined house shows during Cenas injury leave, no doubt Punk is the man right now. Rock feuded with Punk because Punk is the hottest commodity in the WWE. Too bad Cenas ego wont let him do it at Mania, gotta give that win back to the most overrated Superstar of all time.

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Old 01-31-2013, 06:52 PM   #769 (permalink)
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Ultimately, WWE's current product doesn't draw very well (in comparison to previous eras) unless a proven draw from the past returns. That's the situation their in, and it's their own fault.
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I admit: I am a huuuge Punk mark, but he just cant draw shit wich is really sad. The day after he lost the belt, the rating skyrocketd.
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