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Old 01-19-2013, 02:07 AM   #411 (permalink)
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To each his own I guess. Size isn't everything, but okay. Just don't see how Punk, who has beaten Cena over and over, can't stand up to Rock, who has only beaten Cena once.
I wouldn't bother.. the size only crowd are so locked into that ridiculous mindset they won't ever change despite all the proof to the contrary.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:50 AM   #412 (permalink)
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To each his own I guess. Size isn't everything, but okay. Just don't see how Punk, who has beaten Cena over and over, can't stand up to Rock, who has only beaten Cena once.
That's how most discussions about Punk goes. The biggest thing that says that Punk has done well is the respect he's constantly getting from his peers. Austin, Rock, Hogan etc have all talked about how they think he can hold his own with anyone and similar things. Respect from your peers is pretty much the biggest compliment you get when it comes to the quality of your work, regardless of what profession you are in.

That of course isn't something that should affect your own taste because we all like what we do. It is something that should make the kids stop trying to validate their own opinions and trying to make it into fact though, and instead just be secure enough to have an opinion that they stand for. There are talented wrestlers that I myself don't like very much. I'm adult enough not to talk about those wrestlers all the time though.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:05 AM   #413 (permalink)
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oh my this thread is killing me
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:44 PM   #414 (permalink)
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^^^Indeed. But morover, I remember on his DVD it was said that while in developmental Punk easily blew up to over 240. So he can get big anytime he wants, he just doesn't think it's healthy. He said on his DVD that the reason he's so much leaner now is because he's gone all vegan but the pay off is he has way more energy and stamina etc.

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Is the difference the fact that the background is quite dark in the first few and very bright in the fourth picture?
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Still not too terribly imposing, but still better than the cherry-picking Rain has engaged in, which is exactly the point. Folks like that aren't being objective, they're just engaging in confirmation bias.

For instance, he also picked a photo of Jericho circa '97 or so, and not when he was the flabby world heavyweight champion.

So hell, if you're going to select photos from yesteryear, why not do the same with Punk?

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The ratings have struggled even with John Cena and The Rock being featured. So poor ratings can't all be blamed on Punk.

If The Rock has not wanted to work with Punk then The Rock really is an outstanding actor. I don't recall The Rock and The Miz having terrific promos and segments. I don't remember The Rock and The Miz getting into brawls. I don't remember The Rock putting over The Miz at all, much less to the degree he has put over Punk so far.
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Really? Foley, HBK, and Jericho were intimidating because of their size? Who knew being the same size as Punk made them bigger than Punk? Or in Foley's case, weighing more than Punk turns all that fat into muscle?
Yeah,Foley's a Hardcore legend at that time,and he took those insane bumps which sky-rocketed him,HBK wasn't even wrestling in the attitude era.Jericho was an upper mid-carder.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:59 PM   #417 (permalink)
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^And thus you concede the point- those guys weren't intimidating because of their size.

Staying on point FTW.

BTW, HBK did not wrestle for most of the AE. But he was champ leading into it.
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I don't disagree at all.Punk would have had decent run as the IC or the European Champion
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OF COURSE The Rock is going to look bigger than CM Punk...

Namely because The Rock is an admitted steroids user and other performance enhancing drugs in his books and in interviews, like with Howard Stern. Wow, the guy who doesn't have to work matches 150 nights a year and can use steroids looks bigger than the guy who has to bump all over the world and can't use PEDs. You don't say!

PEDs are aPpearance enhancing drugs in wrestling. They do NOTHING in wrestling for your performance. If PEDs increased your PERFORMANCE as a wrestler, Ryback would be Shawn Michaels.

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For instance, he also picked a photo of Jericho circa '97 or so, and not when he was the flabby world heavyweight champion.

So hell, if you're going to select photos from yesteryear, why not do the same with Punk?
I think your missing the point. I chose an old picture of Jericho because I was comparing Punks size with guys from the attitude era, therefore I needed a picture of Jericho from that time. What good is comparing Punk to the flabby Jericho? That has no relevance to anything. Likewise, where is the relevance in showing pictures of how Punk use to look? We're comparing how Punk looks now with how guys looked in the attitude era.
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