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Old 01-17-2013, 03:47 PM   #361 (permalink)
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You can't expect for people to take Punk seriously as a legitimate threat to anyone after he spent months running away from his opponents and receiving assistance from The Shield at every title defense since his heel turn. Hell, right before his confrontation with the Rock he needed The Shield's help against Ryback in the TLC match. So, 15 minutes later the crowd is supposed to believe that the same man running for his life against Ryback is this god that "Rock's arms are too short to box with"?

Heel Triple H could get away with doing this because he possessed the size to be physically imposing and people knew that if he wanted to he could beat their beloved faces in a fair fight. Since Punk doesn't have the size to be intimidating enough to a man, woman, or child he could not afford that type of booking for his heel run. In fact, it is a glaring contradiction to the "Best In the World" title that Punk loves to mention every speech. They should've had Punk winning matches using cunning and skill so that he lived up to his moniker. Triple H was "The Game" because he plotted and schemed against you both inside and outside of the ring.

And none of these stars in the PG Era draw on a consistent basis but for the sake of continuing tradition....


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Old 01-17-2013, 03:48 PM   #362 (permalink)
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Really confused. Why are we comparing Punk vs Clay to a match that happened fourteen years ago? Besides, the Attitude Era ended twelve years ago. Am I missing something?

Surely the WWE/World Champion has been in a 'random quarter' match with a glorified jobber since then at some point in the last fourteen years? Pretty sure there are some examples from the mid 2000's from when Benoit and Batista were World Champions, if not then HHH just before hand in 2003.
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Strange how someone that's supposedly not very talented can make guys like Austin and The Rock want to work specifically with him when (if, in one case) they are coming back. I wonder who I should set my trust in when it comes to judging talent. The poster on the Internet or some of the biggest stars in wrestling history?

It's hilarious what lengths people go to in order to try to justify their opinions. It's not about talent, it's about taste.
That is the funniest thing about some of these clowns in this thread who are questioning Punk's talent. They must actually think that their opinions are more valid than the countless legends who have gone out of their way to say how talented they think Punk is. Rock, Austin, Hogan, HBK, Jim Ross, Bret Hart etc...
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Talent roster was huge during the AE. Peak level. Punk is barely promoted NOW, when the talent pool is at an all-time low and someone is claiming that he would have been anything above a low card performer? Comedy. What Punk does now is to say "controversial on purpose" statements for the "AWWW" reaction in a minority of the fanbase. This was an ordinary thing back then all over the industry. Only place Punk could have been in is ECW around 2000.

As for that Taka/HHH match, it was a top of the hour match. Great TV match. Started 5.7, ended 6.0 but wasn't Top 3 of the night back then.

BTW, Big Show got the title because he was doing good business, not because he was just a random guy. He had one of the most promoted feuds of the year with Bossman before SVS 1999 when he got the belt.

The Clay/Punk match shouldn't be a problem, only important aspect of the Rumble PPV promotion is Rock's title chase. To make it the most important thing in his life and with this money line: "Fact: You ain't God. But God as my witness, in 13 days I WILL beat you for the WWE Title". He basically covered it. They just need to promote it as much as possible along with the Rumble concept.

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Really confused. Why are we comparing Punk vs Clay to a match that happened fourteen years ago? Besides, the Attitude Era ended twelve years ago. Am I missing something?

Surely the WWE/World Champion has been in a 'random quarter' match with a glorified jobber since then at some point in the last fourteen years? Pretty sure there are some examples from the mid 2000's from when Benoit and Batista were World Champions, if not then HHH just before hand in 2003.
Punk may not be a massive tv draw, but my god he is a HUGE wrestling forum draw.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:10 PM   #367 (permalink)
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Talent roster was huge during the AE. Peak level. Punk is barely promoted NOW, when the talent pool is at an all-time low and someone is claiming that he would have been anything above a low card performer? Comedy. What Punk does now is to say "controversial on purpose" statements for the "AWWW" reaction in a minority of the fanbase. This was an ordinary thing back then all over the industry. Only place Punk could have been in is ECW around 2000.

As for that Taka/HHH match, it was a top of the hour match. Great TV match. Started 5.7, ended 6.0 but wasn't Top 3 of the night back then.

BTW, Big Show got the title because he was doing good business, not because he was just a random guy. He had one of the most promoted feuds of the year with Bossman before SVS 1999 when he got the belt.

The Clay/Punk match shouldn't be a problem, only important aspect of the Rumble PPV promotion is Rock's title chase. To make it the most important thing in his life and with this money line: "Fact: You ain't God. But God as my witness, in 13 days I WILL beat you for the WWE Title". He basically covered it. They just need to promote it as much as possible along with the Rumble concept.
Those 2 sentences are all anyone needs to see regarding Punk not being a huge draw. How can anybody possibly be expected to be a huge draw, when they have nobody of any note to feud with on a regular basis?
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That is the funniest thing about some of these clowns in this thread who are questioning Punk's talent. They must actually think that their opinions are more valid than the countless legends who have gone out of their way to say how talented they think Punk is. Rock, Austin, Hogan, HBK, Jim Ross, Bret Hart etc...
This hypocritical clown also claims "Cena is crap" yet based on his logic, it's invalid because plenty of legends have put over Cena's talent.

Why bother being in a forum if you can't even form your own opinion and need validation from "legends"? That's certainly not what I do. It's cool if there's a big name who agrees with me on something but I'm not insecure enough to demand their approval for my opinion to exist. I also don't push my opinion as fact, I may come across as very blunt but that's just my personality.

And to the person who was quoted in the post I quoted, you're on my ignore list so don't bother responding to me again.
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This hypocritical clown also claims "Cena is crap" yet based on his logic, it's invalid because plenty of legends have put over Cena's talent.

Why bother being in a forum if you can't even form your own opinion and need validation from "legends"? That's certainly not what I do. It's cool if there's a big name who agrees with me on something but I'm not insecure enough to demand their approval for my opinion to exist.

And to the person who was quoted in the post I quoted, you're on my ignore list so don't bother responding to me again.
Cena is crap is a light hearted joke after a sustained period of having this guy shoved down my throat.

I have formed my opinion. It just so happens that the likes of Austin, Rock, Hogan, HBK etc, also share my opinion.
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