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Old 01-17-2013, 02:52 PM   #351 (permalink)
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So thats where the title belongs, on Austin/Rock/HHH/Foley etc... who draw. And that's where the title rotated even if it changed hands a bit too much. WWF title is the company's top prize, in year 2000 every ppv ended with the title match. Why would you put that on Funaki? Whats the difference between WWF title and the IC title in your scenario? If Funaki holds the WWF title, what do the main eventers, the big draws fight about?

No offense but the more you post, the more your posts get ridiculously stupid. You should stop now.

And about Punk in the Attitude era, well it wouldn't work. AE was all about larger than life characters, punk would be a jobber at best.
They didn't even need the titles that is the thing. They gave the belt to Big Show and had him feud with The Big Bossman for god sake. Thank god it didn't last long but I doubt the ratings on Raw or PPV buys dipped. I can't even be bothered to check, correct me if I am wrong though.

Why wouldn't he work? Why can't Punk be a "larger than life character" is it because he hasn't taken steroids in his life? I think that would have been a big appeal to Punk in the Attitude Era. The average fan I think would see Punk going up against the guys like Austin, The Rock and almost see a part of themselves, especially with him being rebellious kid too who would go and stand up to bullies etc.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:53 PM   #352 (permalink)
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Ratings won't even matter once they start putting microchips in our heads so we can watch TV and go on the internet with our minds, and there will be no way of telling dem ratings, we're fighting a losing battle here people
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Could you imagine the heat Punk would get in the attitude era with his SES gimmick? How anyone can say a man of Punk's talents wouldn't be a star in any era .
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So thats where the title belongs, on Austin/Rock/HHH/Foley etc... who draw. And that's where the title rotated even if it changed hands a bit too much. WWF title is the company's top prize, in year 2000 every ppv ended with the title match. Why would you put that on Funaki? Whats the difference between WWF title and the IC title in your scenario? If Funaki holds the WWF title, what do the main eventers, the big draws fight about?

No offense but the more you post, the more your posts get ridiculously stupid. You should stop now.

And about Punk in the Attitude era, well it wouldn't work. AE was all about larger than life characters, punk would be a jobber at best.
Sorry, but you're wrong. Punk was made for the AE.

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Could you imagine the heat Punk would get in the attitude era with his SES gimmick? How anyone can say a man of Punk's talents wouldn't be a star in any era .
Because they don't know what they're talking about.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:58 PM   #355 (permalink)
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Could you imagine the heat Punk would get in the attitude era with his SES gimmick? How anyone can say a man of Punk's talents wouldn't be a star in any era .
He wouldn't get anything because back then, being edgy was not exactly special (it was the norm) and people weren't so sensitive as they are today. Mediocre talent like Punk was designed for shit like the 'PG era' where any untalented piece of garbage can just walk in and become World Champion overnight.

Hell, he's not a star today despite the ridiculously low standards and the terrible overpush he's gotten.
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Could you imagine the heat Punk would get in the attitude era with his SES gimmick? How anyone can say a man of Punk's talents wouldn't be a star in any era .
Damn I can imagine it now, fuck.

I could literally see things being thrown into the ring. Imagine if it was happening in WCW for god sake, toilet roll everywhere. Punk would just be preaching and laughing at them as they do it

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Old 01-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #357 (permalink)
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So a randomly placed Punk/Brodus non-title match loses viewers in a spot that normally loses viewers, that was completely unadvertised by the way, and people are making the thread all about it.

Should've just named this thread "The CM Punk Ratings Discussions (with some other Raw rating stuff here and there)". I mean good god, I think I've maybe seen only one person address the fact ROCK in an advertised overrun throughout the show, gained only about 200,000 viewers. Or that despite how it's worded, Punk's "pipebomb" last week seemed to gain viewers.

But as usual with this thread for the haters, if Punk gains viewers, ignore it. If Punk loses viewers, laugh it up as much as possible.

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Old 01-17-2013, 03:12 PM   #358 (permalink)
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Just my 2 cents here, but Punk's promo's are either hit or miss, there are times where they are pretty corny "you're a loser, you're a loser too, you don't deserve to win"... lame stuff, but he does have some times where he comes out with something great, in your face, and edgy. My big complaint with Punk is he puts on great matches, but he really doesn't wrestle like a heel. He doesn't take any real short cuts, no foreign objects, no low blows, no interference from Paul Heyman... he puts on great matches, but he wrestles exactly the same as if he were a face.

As for the ratings, not sure you can blame it all on Punk as there are obviously a lot of other issues with the show. Not quite sure putting the title on Cena or Ryback (the only other options) would change anything.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:42 PM   #359 (permalink)
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They didn't even need the titles that is the thing. They gave the belt to Big Show and had him feud with The Big Bossman for god sake. Thank god it didn't last long but I doubt the ratings on Raw or PPV buys dipped. I can't even be bothered to check, correct me if I am wrong though.
I can't be bothered to check either, but I can assure you if big show was the focus of the show every week as champion, it would have. But this is a pointless argument, you don't put the main event title on a mid carder and expect the product to be as successful as it was.


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Why wouldn't he work? Why can't Punk be a "larger than life character" is it because he hasn't taken steroids in his life? I think that would have been a big appeal to Punk in the Attitude Era. The average fan I think would see Punk going up against the guys like Austin, The Rock and almost see a part of themselves, especially with him being rebellious kid too who would go and stand up to bullies etc.
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Sorry, but you're wrong. Punk was made for the AE.
Don't be marks. Punk even in this era is struggling to be a star despite being the longest reigning champion in modern history, I don't think he would have lasted as a midcarder in AE, let alone the main event. Blame it on steroids or whatever, fact of the matter is Punk is NOT larger than life. Numbers prove that everyweek. I understand this argument is based on the assumption that SES gimmick would have worked, but there is no guarantee he wouldn't have gotten legit X-pac heat instead with that gimmick. Forget the main event, look at the guys he has to compete with in the midcard scene Jericho, Kurt, Benoit, Eddie.. all of them in their prime. Are you telling me Punk as a talent is better than everyone of them?
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He wouldn't get anything because back then, being edgy was not exactly special (it was the norm) and people weren't so sensitive as they are today. Mediocre talent like Punk was designed for shit like the 'PG era' where any untalented piece of garbage can just walk in and become World Champion overnight.

Hell, he's not a star today despite the ridiculously low standards and the terrible overpush he's gotten.
Strange how someone that's supposedly not very talented can make guys like Austin and The Rock want to work specifically with him when (if, in one case) they are coming back. I wonder who I should set my trust in when it comes to judging talent. The poster on the Internet or some of the biggest stars in wrestling history?

It's hilarious what lengths people go to in order to try to justify their opinions. It's not about talent, it's about taste.
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