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Old 07-06-2013, 01:07 PM   #3271 (permalink)
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The causes of gains and losses are random. Stupid to analyse them on a weekly basis.
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:12 PM   #3272 (permalink)
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but the nba off season is killing us in the ratings!
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WWE buried a white hot Ryback for this guy?
ah when was ryback white hot exactly and moving ratings??

october 22 ie 6 days before hiac

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The Miz vs. Ryback and the backstage brawl with Layla, Eve Torres and Kaitlyn lost 613,000 viewers - not a good sign for Ryback right now.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:20 PM   #3274 (permalink)
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I see a lot of guys coming here and trying to be cool by shitting on Punk. I guess hes the biggest draw around here, its weird, every hater has this argument about ratings in many threads when Punk is brought up, the obsession is unreal. You dont see Punk fans shitting on Sheamus, Ryback and Orton for ratings (but if so only in defense), even tho theyre not doing well from a long time ago.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:23 PM   #3275 (permalink)
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I think both the marks and haters are going overboard in this thread. On one hand, Punk should be doing big numbers considering the push that he has had but on the other hand, the show is all-around terrible so....

I just don't understand how Sheamus is a failure because he's not drawing at least 3.0's but Punk and Cena aren't failures when they can only draw 3.0's feuding with guys like Lesnar, Jericho, Rock, and Taker? Hmmm... that seems very hypocritical to me.

When Sheamus's last 4 opponents are Rock, Cena, Taker, and Jericho, then I will 100% agree with that notion if he still isn't bringing in the viewers. But, I just don't think that it's fair to blame guys like Orton, Bryan, and Sheamus for their ratings when they aren't feuding with part-timers but you excuse the ratings of two people who do nothing but feud with part-timers.

And since I blasted Punk when he was champion and had low ratings, now I'm calling Cena out on his. He needs to drop the belt because he isn't drawing well. If it wasn't for Mark Henry, then I wouldn't be able to handle his segments. It is obvious that Cena isn't motivated and doesn't care. His promos are garbage and Henry's performances only make this more evident.
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How can Punk justify his ratings even when he is usually advertised before his segments/matches and had been given one of the best booking? At one point he was being booked above Cena and they put so much effort into him, expecting him to deliver in ratings but it didn't happen. We know how great Punk can be on the mic or in the ring (even tho I think he is slightly overrated), but we are judging him on how well he draws just like we would with anybody else. It's honestly a mystery to me because he created a huge impact in the business with his shoot and had everybody behind him, but he draws so poor when he isn't working with ppl who are above him. That's my issue with Punk.
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I see a lot of guys coming here and trying to be cool by shitting on Punk. I guess hes the biggest draw around here, its weird, every hater has this argument about ratings in many threads when Punk is brought up, the obsession is unreal. You dont see Punk fans shitting on Sheamus, Ryback and Orton for ratings (but if so only in defense), even tho theyre not doing well from a long time ago.
I've seen that happen so many times before. I remember when Orton was champion in 2011 and many of his haters were whining about the ratings (some of which are Punk marks who cry every time their hero gets shitted on for being a flop). Sheamus was on Smackdown as champion so they just skipped on Smackdown and shitted on him as an "entertainer". And I've seen many of them laugh every time a Ryback segment has done bad.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #3277 (permalink)
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How can Punk justify his ratings even when he is usually advertised before his segments/matches and had been given one of the best booking? At one point he was being booked above Cena and they put so much effort into him, expecting him to deliver in ratings but it didn't happen. We know how great Punk can be on the mic or in the ring (even tho I think he is slightly overrated), but we are judging him on how well he draws just like we would with anybody else. It's honestly a mystery to me because he created a huge impact in the business with his shoot and had everybody behind him, but he draws so poor when he isn't working with ppl who are above him. That's my issue with Punk.
No, he's never really been booked above Cena - not even when he was champ... and that's the problem.
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How can Punk justify his ratings even when he is usually advertised before his segments/matches and had been given one of the best booking? At one point he was being booked above Cena and they put so much effort into him, expecting him to deliver in ratings but it didn't happen. We know how great Punk can be on the mic or in the ring (even tho I think he is slightly overrated), but we are judging him on how well he draws just like we would with anybody else. It's honestly a mystery to me because he created a huge impact in the business with his shoot and had everybody behind him, but he draws so poor when he isn't working with ppl who are above him. That's my issue with Punk.
What is this poor ratings all about, giving us an overall rating of a show doesnt mean its CM Punk fault, didnt know that WWE was RAW featuring CM Punk. He was injured in a time when ratings where low, Cena was the Main guy all the time. Hes not gonna boost ratings who the hell is CM Punk to make it higher than ever is he god or something that will gain 5 million viewers per segment or match to satisfy assholes like you, no one can do that, the roster drawing power is very weak, not because of Punk, why dont you complain about Orton and Sheamus they got pushed harder than him with clean wins over big stars.

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I've seen that happen so many times before. I remember when Orton was champion in 2011 and many of his haters were whining about the ratings (some of which are Punk marks who cry every time their hero gets shitted on for being a flop). Sheamus was on Smackdown as champion so they just skipped on Smackdown and shitted on him as an "entertainer". And I've seen many of them laugh every time a Ryback segment has done bad.
Maybe that happened but not as much as Punk mentioning, I really dont think so. Im talking about ratings shitting not who's entertaining and who's not. Ryback was at the time pushed straight away to the Main Event which I think was criticized by all marks but there are also times when they said Ryback is ratings and staff like that, but a lot of time its just defense because theyre marks and thats what they do.

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you are talking tiny differences either way here

people are laughing at raw opening with bryan opening the show with a 2.73 but yet on june 3rd raw opened with vince and steph at 2.72...

people say that bryan can't draw because last weeks mainevent did a 2.98 yet on june 3rd cena in the main event did a 3.14 and last year the worst over-run rating of the entire year had cena in the main event

lets take the belt off of cena because raw outside mania season did 3.99m average whereas during mania season while rock was champion 3 times the show did 4.2m viewers

raw viewership is where it is right now and nothing or nobody is changing it for the forseeable future, raw during mania season will do on average 4.2-4.4m and maybe hit 5 million if there is a hook built in advance (big return, old school raw, night after mania/rumble), raw between may and august will average 3.9-4.2m and raw during football season will average 3.5-4m, that is the reality, no matter who is the champ or who is getting pushed you won't change that fact, wwe and the fans have programmed themselves to believe that nothing matters outside mania season anymore

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No, he's never really been booked above Cena - not even when he was champ... and that's the problem.
Wrong. last November/December Cena was injured and after giving Ryback his main event spot disappeared from tv to heal up. Punk had total control of the show on his back at that point and that is when ratings hit 15 year lows. It got so bad Vince had to come running back onto tv to stop the fan exodus. Punk had his shot to carry the show after 2 years of a push and he failed. For 2 months straight he failed. Accept it.
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