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Old 05-08-2013, 07:30 AM   #2371 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, the biggest draw in the WWE is the WWE brand name itself. The rating suck because the company sucks. Nothing to do with anybody on or not on the show. Vince and his Hollywood writing staff are creatively bankrupt. Once the NFL season starts we may be looking at Raw potentially doing less than that 2.3 or whatever it was last year.
This.

Sadly the WWE probably won't care much about a 2.9 rating. It's when the ratings do get down to that low 2 area that they might actually feel pressured to make the product better.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:33 AM   #2372 (permalink)
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The point isnt that they are still getting decent ratings, its that the show used to get 5.0+ and 4.0+ regularly during the attitude era, that is when things were awesome. So i compare it to that and how it seems so low in comparison.

What ill never understand is why even with the PG rating cant we get some better writing, or like people have said something shocking, or twists and turns.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:40 AM   #2373 (permalink)
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The point isnt that they are still getting decent ratings, its that the show used to get 5.0+ and 4.0+ regularly during the attitude era, that is when things were awesome. So i compare it to that and how it seems so low in comparison.

What ill never understand is why even with the PG rating cant we get some better writing, or like people have said something shocking, or twists and turns.
But no show, no matter how awsome, gets that anymore, raitings are out of date, they cant see who watches the show if its not on tv and live

with dvr's, online playing, and many more soruces I'd be surpised if the raitings show even half the pepole who watched it
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:42 AM   #2374 (permalink)
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Just read about how this was the lowest ratings for RAW and SD this year, and basically i wish they would continue to sink...but im sure by next week itll be back up to over 3.0 in some manner. But if it were to continue to sink, im sure something would be done but what exactly is a plausible scenario?

If lets say the ratings finally got to that point, what exactly would Vince do? Would he just continue on as normal and figure things would change? Or do you guys feel something might actually be done to better the product if it were to really get down in the ratings?
This is likely Vince's response

"It's not that we have a bad quality product or repetitive matches, we give our audience must see TV. Look at what money we made after that amazing Road to Wrestlmania. Reason our ratings is low is simply due to basketball for the time being!"
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:44 AM   #2375 (permalink)
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I think thats the thing that drives me nuts, as much as i want to rip my own skin off when i see Sheamus anymore, or when i see Brodus and Tensai dancing..... i cant seem to just walk away from it completely. Its more or less me hoping every week something changes, but it never does.

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Old 05-08-2013, 07:58 AM   #2376 (permalink)
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change what exactly, raw did a 1.86 rating on the road to mania 13 in march 1997 and vince continued doing what he was doing, raw did a 1.75 rating in october 1996 with an austin vs hbk main event and 18 months later that match would main event mania 14, wwe raw continues to occupy the top 10 most watched cables shows of the week http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...5-2013/181310/
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:05 AM   #2377 (permalink)
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Let's face it: most of the people doesn't like wrestling nowadays. :/
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The ratings are decent. I mean we are in 2013 after all. You can't expect people to watch TV when they can stream and shit.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:19 AM   #2379 (permalink)
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Ouch. Thought they would have been able to hover around the 4.5 million viewer mark for a while but obviously not. A 2.9 in May isn't good, especially when you know things are only going to go down. By the time we hit Sept - Dec they very well could be looking at overall numbers in the 2.3 to 2.5 range which will probably scare them. 2.9 isn't good but it isn't disastrous either. If they dip lower though then I guess it really becomes a question of whether having the third hour and the money they make from it is a better deal than cutting back down to 2 so they can up the ratings and make money off that. None of us are in a position to speak on that but I imagine that will be the main question in Vince's mind if this keeps up and things continue to drop. There's also the fact that they have this new half hour pre-show with Yahoo starting in the summer. The WWE product is completely over-saturated. They have content everywhere which comes with it's positive and negatives. Maybe the pre-show is their way of testing the waters for a possible way out of the 3 hour Raw's. I'm sure they're getting money from Yahoo for the content and maybe that's enough to cancel out the money they get from the third hour of Raw on TV. That would open up the door to cut back down to 2 hours with the Yahoo pre-show to end up with 2.5 hours of Raw every week. Just a thought.

On the Cena front, John Cena is a draw and anybody saying otherwise is being silly. But, and there is a but, I don't think it's a secret that his ability to draw purely on his name alone works to the degree that it used to. Cena vs. Lashley in 2007 is not Cena vs. Ryback in 2013 if that makes sense. They can't just stick him with anybody and expect it to work miracles any more. I also think that Cena winning the title, absolutely nothing changing and WWE going back to square one with him at the top of the baby face mountain has hurt them. They're still in the mindset of turning others and changing everything to fit around a face John Cena rather than changing the actual problem in Cena himself. But it is what it is.

They have Brock Lesnar and Triple H at their disposal and they don't advertise or apparently use them either which doesn't help matters. I suspect they'll go all out next week as a final big sell for the PPV next Sunday.

I'm not even touching the Punk stuff. You can't argue with delusion and Punk marks, well....I'll say no more.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:52 AM   #2380 (permalink)
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This is the show I was referring to. Dunno where you got that number, but the one I saw for that date was 2.3 something. That was the show that cost Brian Gerwitz his spot at (not so) creative.
He got it from the Observer, of course. The big question is where you got your number? Not letting facts get in the way of telling your story, right?
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