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Old 03-29-2013, 06:27 PM   #1901 (permalink)
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Edge V Taker was the Number 4 match at WM 24, it main evented and was the MOTN
Edge/Taker had a pretty long build IIRC. Started in May 2007. I can't say it was MUCH bigger than Cena/Orton/HHH but it wasn't an obvious number 4 IMO. Floyd/Show and Flair/HBK were the top 2, then it was pretty equal.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:39 PM   #1902 (permalink)
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Because I'm bored and have nothing better to do on this blessed Good Friday.

This is the main promotional TV spot for Wrestlemania.



This is the other one.



Learn the difference between WWE's promotion during their own shows and their promotion for outside their own shows. These 2 commercials are the ones that run on TV outside of anything WWE and last 30 seconds a piece, the standard length for a TV spot of that nature. Of course Punk/Taker is going to get promoted. It's one of the biggest matches on the card. But they aren't using it to sell the PPV to anybody outside the WWE audience.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:04 PM   #1903 (permalink)
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While were all going to be biased to some degree I definitely think HHH/Brock is #2 with Taker/Punk in a clear #3 in terms of WrestleMania priority, It's very clear to see the effort creatively put into a Triple H WrestleMania match () is on a higher scale than CM Punk and Undertaker which they didn't even start building till 3 weeks ago which make's sense with Punk's displeasure with creative in recent weeks and how that feud is being presented compared to when Triple H and Shawn Michaels were challenging for it.
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Final show approaching, y'all feeling a positive rating?
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:01 AM   #1905 (permalink)
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I love CM Punk, and he's pretty much the only "full-time" main event star WWE has right now that demands my undivided attention at all times, but, no offense, guys, some of you are being more than a little overprotective with him in these circular debates with Starbuck. Having read all of the posts, I completely, utterly comprehended the precise reckoning Starbuck was using in examining how well the three big programs are doing (LOL WHC). Where things got hairy was Rawk attempting to appropriate segments which occurred before Punk/Taker became an actual program as such. Yes, Taker deserves credit for those segments, and Punk deserves some, too, but that segment rating should not be highlighted as belonging to the "CM Punk vs. The Undertaker" storyline feud, because said feud did not yet exist in those segments. It even would have been different if WWE had booked the program with greater depth and texture, as I would have liked, with it being sparked with a character-driven segment of Punk cutting a long, ranting promo about his place at this time in WWE, and that drew Taker out to teach Punk a lesson in humility rather than the "up-for-grabs" lottery ticket-style of storytelling WWE employed in a fourway #1 contender match for the Streak at Wrestlemania. Now, I think most even vageuly knowledgeable wrestling fans knew that Punk was going to win, and you can say that helped the program, but none of us know that to actually be true, and even if we did, it would be impossible to ascertain just what percentage of viewers held this opinion or thought (perhaps fueled by online dirt sheets, etceteras). Starbuck's approach has been wholly objective in my view, and I'd be even more blunt: Cena/Rock for the title is the clear-cut #1, Lesnar/Triple H for Triple H's career is the clear-cut #2 and practically the co-main event in a way that last year's "End of an Era" HIAC match was in its standing with Rock/Cena I. Then there's a fairly decent-sized gap, and there you find Punk/Taker for the Streak. Punk/Taker for the Streak is a much bigger #3 than last year's Jericho/Punk WWE Championship match was--that match was a distant #3. But a #3 it is. And there's nothing wrong with that. The WHC match is, once again, a very, very distant #4, the kind of program that could have had the Intercontinental Championship as its centerpiece 20-25 or so years ago.

As a Punk fan, while I personally would have liked Punk/Triple H and Lesnar/Undertaker, I can fully get behind where he is on the card, and as Triple H and, soon, Undertaker and probably Rock depart wrestling, Punk's stature on Wrestlemania cards in the very near future is going to grow tremendously. He may only be on a few more of these cards, what with his desire to retire at a relatively young and all, but I'm quite confident he will be in at least one true final match main event of a Wrestlemania between now and Wrestlemania XXXII.
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Final show approaching, y'all feeling a positive rating?
Let's put it like this: If they can't get an average 4.0 rating with Rock, Cena, Triple H, Lesnar, Taker and Punk, they might never ever get one again.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:24 AM   #1907 (permalink)
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Final show approaching, y'all feeling a positive rating?
Should be. Expecting around a 3.4-3.6, probably in the higher range of that. They have Rock/Cena, Taker/Punk, and Lesnar/HHH all on the same show, and it's the final show before Mania. All factors should lead it to being a big rating, and same for the Raw after Mania.

@Deso- Don't really have anything to say that I haven't, and for the record I don't majorly disagree with anybody saying Lesnar/HHH is the number 2 biggest match on the card (on paper, it should easily be in terms of overall star power compared to Taker/Punk). The rest of the stuff though either you agree with it or you don't. I can agree though on wanting Taker/Lesnar and Punk/HHH over what we got. However something else you brought up I want to discuss, you mentioning how the WHC match is the 4th biggest match... I actually think The Shield match is bigger. Seems to get more promotion, has a lot more starpower, and overall has a bigger match feel to it than the WHC match. The World Title in general has meant shit for 2-3 years now, but especially this year it seems to have hit a new low.

May just me though.
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As for the "main evented more" part, that's not because of importance and higher profile. WWE booked the biggest angles at 9pm as a strategic placement to maximize Rock and Lesnar's segments before the third hour drop, Rock/Cena did there 4.1, the week after Lesnar/Heyman did a 3.6 during a tag match. WWE promotion aside, Lesnar/HHH is still a bigger match because Lesnar means more on PPV than Taker today. Add to it that Punk is not a difference maker and HHH's career stipulation. Another problem with Taker's WM streak match this year is the weak storytelling. The biggest attraction about Taker at WM is the possibility of the streak ending, this year the ultimate payoff to the match is Taker getting revenge on Punk and taking the urn back.
Maybe but not at Wrestlemania,Taker "today" is bigger than anyone not named The Rock when it comes to Wrestlemania.
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I think it's close between Taker and Lesnar. Both of them give a large incentive for WWE fans to watch their matches at PPV's with now how rare they are, and Taker may edge Lesnar in that department at Mania, but Lesnar attracts a fan base Taker doesn't and therefore, I think I'd end up giving Lesnar the edge as far as what his matches mean to WWE PPV's, even Wrestlemania. However both of them are the two biggest stars and draws out of their matches and the biggest reasons for why their matches are as big as they are. The difference in star power though is made apparent by the difference between Punk and HHH, as while HHH is a fairly close third between the four of them, Punk is a very distant fourth.
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tomorrow maybe. but post Mania it will go up against the NCAA National Championship game, so not sure what they think they can get against that.
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