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Daemon_Rising · 01-06-2013, 10:48 AM

I hate pre-recorded reactions being dubbed over the real crowd.. but over the last few years I have come to accept that Smackdown, being pre-recorded, is going to have canned heat. I can accept this knowing that WWE leave Raw's reactions alone, with it generally being live most of the time.

Even when they pre-taped Raw I don't remember them dubbing anything over, yet the last 2 episodes of Raw were pre-taped (24th and 31st) and the canned heat was just ridiculous. Ziggler is getting cheered like a face at PPV's, it is simply not believable to see him getting booed two weeks in a row. (Yes, I say that even though he plays a heel... he is so loved by the crowds that the canned heat is just not credible!)

To make it worse, they even had The Miz over-dub one of his lines when he Miz-introduced Vickie Guerrero. I feel lied to. We, as a universe/community/group of fans, whatever you call us, should have the right to cheer and boo for whoever we want, therefore having an impact on the direction and size of our most loved/hated superstars. WWE are getting far too controlling, trying to tell us to cheer for who THEY want us to cheer for, rather than who WE want to cheer for.

Although this is nothing new at all, I just feel that beginning to play canned heat on Raw as well as Smackdown is setting a dangerous precedent for the future of this company.

ROGERTHAT21 · 01-06-2013, 11:00 AM

I think they only edit these 2 Raws because they weren't important and the crowds were bad. You won't have to worry about it anyway, Raw will be live from here on in.

Yeah, Ziggler gets cheered at PPVs. But let's get real, the guy doesn't come out to that big of a reaction on Raw or Smackdwon unless it's a smark city. Not trying to knock him, it's just the truth.

LOL, it really isn't that big of a deal. It may be slightly insulting, but stop being so sensitive. They're just adhering to kayfabe, you know: the foundation that professional wrestling is built on. Th WWE is a business, they can do whatever they want with they're business. Just like you can choose to cheer who you want, they can choose to work the crowd to their favor. I don't neccesarily agree with it, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's true.

Daemon_Rising · 01-06-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ROGERTHAT21

I think they only edit these 2 Raws because they weren't important and the crowds were bad. You won't have to worry about it anyway, Raw will be live from here on in.

Yeah, Ziggler gets cheered at PPVs. But let's get real, the guy doesn't come out to that big of a reaction on Raw or Smackdwon unless it's a smark city. Not trying to knock him, it's just the truth.

LOL, it really isn't that big of a deal. It may be slightly insulting, but stop being so sensitive. They're just adhering to kayfabe, you know: the foundation that professional wrestling is built on. Th WWE is a business, they can do whatever they want with they're business. Just like you can choose to cheer who you want, they can choose to work the crowd to their favor. I don't neccesarily agree with it, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's true.

Yes I know you are right really and that they are adhering to kayfabe.. but at the same time kayfabe should be an open fourth wall and not a closed one.

I don't really have a problem with it, unless it were to become permanent. Because then the crowd reactions would have very little meaning, and I love hearing true crowds, and hearing developments in crowd dynamics.

**Duke Silver** · 01-06-2013, 11:21 AM

What I find funny is that in 2013 the WWE still haven't figured out a way to can heat without it sounding ridiculously fake.

**SPCDRI** · 01-06-2013, 11:39 AM

What, you don't think this sounds authentic?

Perfect.Insanity · 01-06-2013, 12:17 PM

It's so painfully obvious where they add their touch.

It's funny and pathetic in the same time.

Fatmanp · 01-06-2013, 12:36 PM

If they are going to can cheers and boos at least take them from Smark towns not the typical female/kiddy squeals they use.

**Snoth** · 01-06-2013, 12:46 PM

Solid OP. They're wasting their time really. They can dub all they want but Ziggler will continue to get cheered.

People are sheep but 2 weeks don't overtake a few months

VintageOrton · 01-06-2013, 12:54 PM

It doesn't annoy me that they do it, what annoys me is how obvious they make it, every pop sounds exactly the same as the others.

**RubenMark** · 01-06-2013, 12:59 PM

But...but...how else would we know the Miz was a face if they didn't have the good courtesy to smash it into our faces?

I knew with the Christmas an NYE Raws, we'd be in for an overdubbed treat...and I wasn't disappointed.