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Old 01-05-2013, 09:30 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I've got my reasons for not liking Ryback, and while I admit the Vince comment was a tad foolish, there are other reasons why. I see people claiming that Ryback is a future face of the WWE. This is absurd, and is no different to people writing him off. The hyperbole works both ways.

At the moment I don't even hate the guy, I'm still giving him a chance but I don't see much that will make me start rooting for the guy. I've gone for big guys in the past, like Brock, Batista, and Umaga caught my eye for the brief moments I watched. These guys were monsters. In my eyes Ryback isn't doing much in comparison to these guys.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:36 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Default Re: Anyone think Ryback's too goofy?

Going by what your friends like isn't really much of a statistical ground to base anything on. Of the people I know that watch wrestling no one posts about it on the Internet and no one thinks Ryback is good (I'm probably the one that says the nicest things about him). That doesn't make me think that I can draw any general conclusions from that though.

We have heard several shows where the "feed me more" chants have been the same pitch as the pro-Cena chants usually are, so he certainly appeals to the kids, but the forum alone is enough to see that others like him as well. Personally I don't give a crap about who else likes what I do, I can stand for my own opinions.
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Default Re: Anyone think Ryback's too goofy?

Wouldn't call him goofy but I can't get behind the guy and don't see what the WWE sees in him.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:46 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Wouldn't call him goofy but I can't get behind the guy and don't see what the WWE sees in him.
where's John Cena in ur Top 10 :r9 ???
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:56 AM   #75 (permalink)
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It'd be easier to argue for my comment being absurd (hyperbolic label btw), and whatever else you choose to label it as if you didn't legitimize my comment by telling me it was pretty much the exact way you felt. You made it hard on yourself off jump. You probably didn't plan for a mini-debate though (neither did I).

What I said was also not hyperbole. I didn't say it was the "only reason" people hated him, I said, quote: "most of which seem to have the same reasons for hating him". It was an observation, and not at all exaggerated to the point of hyperbole since I didn't say "everyone thought the same way".

In my observation, it's been the most common denominator for why most people I've seen on here who hate Ryback. The other common denominator being that they're Punk fans (and in many cases it's both at once). I've yet to see a single person hate him and one of those two things not be a predominating factor in the opinion being what it is. Absolutely not hyperbole, or absurd. It's perfectly viewable throughout the forum. I've viewed a lot of Ryback threads (as I'm a fan) throughout his push, and have had plenty of time to observe that behavior and the reasoning behind it.

All you're doing is mislabeling my comments, not providing any arguments against them. If that's all you're going to do, this discussion has no point in continuing. It's a waste of both our times. I've got better shit to do as I'm sure you do as well. Video game time for me. Just got Smackdown: Bring the Pain, and Smackdown vs Raw 2006 for $5 total.

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Lol fucking hell. I didn't even mention you as in yourself, I meant a group of people, hence why I said 'I see people blah blah'. But yeah, you're right this is a waste of time. Just don't get upset when people give legitimate reasons for not liking your favourite wrestler in future.
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Lol fucking hell. I didn't even mention you as in yourself, I meant a group of people, hence why I said 'I see people blah blah'. But yeah, you're right this is a waste of time. Just don't get upset when people give legitimate reasons for not liking your favourite wrestler in future.
I won't get annoyed if their reasons actually are legitimate, and not just a douchey reason like "Vince likes him so I won't", followed by digging for excuses to justify it rather than just outright say why. Naysaying for the sake of naysaying is annoying as hell.

He's not my favorite either. He's like #4-5.


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Going by what your friends like isn't really much of a statistical ground to base anything on. Of the people I know that watch wrestling no one posts about it on the Internet and no one thinks Ryback is good (I'm probably the one that says the nicest things about him). That doesn't make me think that I can draw any general conclusions from that though.

We have heard several shows where the "feed me more" chants have been the same pitch as the pro-Cena chants usually are, so he certainly appeals to the kids, but the forum alone is enough to see that others like him as well. Personally I don't give a crap about who else likes what I do, I can stand for my own opinions.
The Feed Me More chants are almost always mixed pitched. They usually sound deep most of the time, but you can hear kids chanting it as well. The Cena chants are clearly high pitched and are almost always by just kids. The two chants not even close most of the time unless you have terrible hearing problems.

You also just bemoaned my use of anecdotal evidence. . .yet all of your points were anecdotal evidence. Fail much?

I expected more from your return argument against me after your big failure months ago. If this is all you have to offer, just stop now. It's already disappointing.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:17 AM   #78 (permalink)
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For all the people bitching about his teeth and their descriptions of them, you'd think he had mangled and missing teeth with the rest shooting all over the place. All I see wrong is a 1/5th chipped tooth on one of his teeth.

The gimmick posters on here are really desperate for stuff to bitch about with Ryback now.
My post had nothing to do with his teeth, though. You assume every post in this thread related to him has to do with his teeth, I don't care about teeth nor do I care about how people look in this business. All I was saying is that whenever he talks, or whenever he poses or something, he does that face for like less than a second. It's just a little weird, that's all.

I think Ryback's decent though, I don't hate him like other people do. Sure, Vince fucked up by putting him in main events so early in his career, but it's not that big of a deal to me. Besides, everybody and their mother knows that the McMahons love the 250/270+ pound guys. They did the same with the likes of Lesnar, Batista, etc.
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Default Re: Anyone think Ryback's too goofy?

maybe not goofy but he sure isn't intimidating and i don't see him as a badass, but probably i'm a bit biased, i was starting to like him when they decided to throw him in the main event killing the momentum of guys for whom i actually care so right now i just want him to fuck off in the midcard as soon as possible
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The Feed Me More chants are almost always mixed pitched. They usually sound deep most of the time, but you can hear kids chanting it as well. The Cena chants are clearly high pitched and are almost always by just kids. The two chants not even close most of the time unless you have terrible hearing problems.

You also just bemoaned my use of anecdotal evidence. . .yet all of your points were anecdotal evidence. Fail much?

I expected more from your return argument against me after your big failure months ago. If this is all you have to offer, just stop now. It's already disappointing.
There have been more chants that were high pitched recently than before. It's still inconsistent and there needs to be more time to evaluate it as things differ from area to area. But as I pointed out, the argument that only kids like him is quite obviously false.

I was very clear on all the anecdotal evidence points I made that they aren't enough to base anything on. On the part where I mentioned my friends I said that it's not something you draw general conclusions from, and about that the chants have gotten higher pitched I gave examples of why that doesn't give the whole picture. How can that be hard to get when it's spelled right out?

I wasn't responding directly towards you (when I do, I use quotes), I was making comments on more than what you've said. As for disappointing, it's you still not even trying to understand the points and failing to see where I dissected my own points to say that they aren't valid on their own. If that's how it is we have no reason to discuss this time either. That you bring up the old discussion and then managed to miss the point so much just makes me think that you're still upset and want to find a reason to argue. That doesn't interest me.
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