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Old 01-07-2013, 07:58 PM   #81 (permalink)
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wow.. what a relevant thread tonight!!
cena v ziggler
big e blataly comes
cena then loses
only to leave the ring the winner
what does that say.

And this is why wrestling fans shouldn't be bookers. You obviously thought that Cena was going to lose to Ziggler unadvertised while Cena could possibly win the Royal Rumble and set up a possible rematch with the Rock at Wrestlemania?
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People complain about newer talent not getting over, but what they mean is that their favourite isn't getting over, everyone else can go to hell. I'm for as many people getting over as possible, it would improve the show and the more over people there are, the more avenues there are to push new talent, yes, your favourites are more likely to get pushed if there are more over people to feud with.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:13 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Cena's matches aren't even worth watching. I knew he was going to win tonight even when Big E interfered, there is no suspension of disbelief because he just never loses. I bet you could count on one hand the number of times Cena has lost on Raw in the last 4 years.
This. It's one thing that someone like The Rock perfected back in '99-'01. Yes, he didn't lose cleanly much either but he had a sense of vulnerability. There was always a sense that he may lose due to underhanded heel tactics or outside interference. You don't get that sense of vulnerability with Cena.
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Cena sold his loss to rock pretty well. Seemed devastated outside the ring. I have also seen a lot of other wrestlers no sell their losses, not just Cena.
Yeah. People were saying Cena didn't sell. That was fucking stupid.
He sold perfectly, rolled out of the ring, sat, dissapointed on the ramp.

Perfect facial expressions and dissapointment. Cena sold that loss really well. I give him a lot of props. He sold it perfectly.
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cena!! cena!! cena!! cena!! cena!! cena!!

cena is so awesome! he always wins!! isnt it so exciting?!!
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OP mentioned HHH and Batista. I'll give you Show and Khali.

Don't think you can call JBL's win clean. Yeah, it was a No DQ match but trying to set somebody on fire and getting lucky by pushing them onto a car screen isn't clean. Orton didn't pin him cleanly at HIAC either; tag match wins involving Nexus involved distraction from another wrestler.
The JBL win sounds clean to me. Also, I saw the Orton win in Hell in a Cell, that looked clean to me. What wasn't clean about it?

Oh, and Sheamus beat him clean for the WWE Title in a tables match. I consider that a clean win. Its not like tables materialize out of thin air, guys know when they're standing next to one. I'll admit its not an amazing win, but its a clean win.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:47 PM   #86 (permalink)
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cena!! cena!! cena!! cena!! cena!! cena!!

cena is so awesome! he always wins!! isnt it so exciting?!!


It's boring and pointless when he wins, it's boring and pointless when he loses. The next meaningful match he will have is at Wrestlemania.
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Yeah. People were saying Cena didn't sell. That was fucking stupid.
He sold perfectly, rolled out of the ring, sat, dissapointed on the ramp.

Perfect facial expressions and dissapointment. Cena sold that loss really well. I give him a lot of props. He sold it perfectly.
No, they're right, the fact that he effectively kicked out RIGHT AFTER the 3 is as little selling as you can do. I'm 100% fine with it, it was still a clean loss. But yeah, he didn't sell it. His big disappointment act was great, too, but he didn't sell the loss, he recovered instantly. Which, again, is fine, and its the way he's booked cuz he's the man (except for tonight, cuz Rock's here).
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I just can't get over the number of finishers he kicked out of. Thats why I can't get behind the guy. He's just too ironclad.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:34 PM   #89 (permalink)
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He's back to SuperCena mode and wont even put over Ziggler after being hit by Big-E-Roidhead's finisher. They must be serious when they say that despite giving him "superstar of the year 2012" that 2013 is going to be a bigger and better yet for Cena.. as if anybody wants that to happen? I'm willing to bet even Cena wants to take some time off or turn heel cause he has to be sick of playing the same character for 7 years.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:45 PM   #90 (permalink)
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How about just a loss period?

Fame-Asser into Zig-Zag, Super-kick and Sleeper, all moves Ziggler has done to win a match, plus a ref bump AND an enforcer's finisher (from a muscle bound monster heel whose gimmick is getting a 5 count with that move) and Cena won't take the loss? No sell all of it, finisher out of nowhere, win? That is just totally ridiculous and makes Ziggler look terrible.
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