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123bigdave · 01-01-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamHeadsh0t

its time they use his star power to create new top level talent, cena should job to ziggler, ryback, the shield etc. Obviously he needs to keep winning but in big time matches hes gotta let the young stars get there big win. Cenas popularity and drawing power is dropping and he can help set the wwe up for future years by putting over the younger guys.

No it isn't. Have you got proof that it is? Sales of his merch is higher than ever at the moment.

Agmaster · 01-01-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by austin316 G.O.A.T

How many people beat Hogan,Austin,Rock or HHH cleanly when they were the biggest stars in the company?

Rock ate tons of pins and is loved and regaled even more now for it. I don't like Hogan, Ausin, or Cena. because they didn't make new stars every well. Even if Hurricane flopped, rock fucking tried. Its why I respect Miz despite what everyone says. He TRIED to put A Ry over. Cena doesn't sem to try to put anymore over besides the cenation. Boooring.

paulborklaserheyma · 01-01-2013, 08:47 AM

Yeah I have respect for top stars who are willing to put over others like The Rock.
I even like Hogan in 2002 because he literally jobbed to everyone.

Hotdiggity11 · 01-01-2013, 08:48 AM

Top faces rarely, if ever, lose clean. Just the way it is.

Pongo · 01-01-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Morrison

this, this and this. Cena losing clean should be a very rare occasion cause he is the TOP GUY, and he will be for years to come. The monthly clean putting over comes when you are less than a year from retirement. Cena doesn't need to do that at this stage, anyone who even feuds with him gets put over by that. For example, Cena put over Edge, it didn't involve any 'clean' losses, in fact Edge used the dirtiest tactics to beat Cena, which is why he got over big as a heel. Not only is it ridiculous that IWC wants every new face to beat Cena clean, it's even more that they want heels to beat him clean. What will that accomplish? Heels are meant to cheat, it helps them get heat and be known as the bad guys.

i doesn't always work that way, some time people forgets that in the wrestling business there are no general rules and the result of a feud, booking aside, it pretty much depends on how things play out

having a feud with the top dog can put you over even if you lose in the end, but if the top dog trash you in the mic and beat you clean every single week then you looks like a jobber and the fued doesn't do anything for you

if you beat the top dog in a heel fashion and the spotlight goes to the heel turn of a diva you stay excatly where you were at the beginning of this feud

and heels are not meant to cheat anyway, it's really depends on the character, heel can avoid the cheating as well the face can cheat sometimes without turn, like i said it depends on how things play out

cena should not eats clean pin form everyone, but hell, he still doesn't let punk go over clean

BlakeGriffinFan32 · 01-01-2013, 10:40 AM

I am hoping he puts over somebody else cleanly, yes.

Perfect.Insanity · 01-01-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakeGriffinFan32

I am hoping he puts over somebody else cleanly, yes.

Next after The Rock is Taker.

I mean fuck new talent and all of that

BlakeGriffinFan32 · 01-01-2013, 11:05 AM

It would be nice if he did help put over a new talent. I mean, at least Hogan did it for Ultimate Warrior.

**RaneGaming** · 01-01-2013, 11:08 AM

WWE has done a Big Face Turn(No pun intended) Faces are no longer the underdog Faces Are Superman Heel's are Lex

So i Feel all faces need to Start putting over clean

alliance · 01-01-2013, 11:33 AM

i wouldnt give cena that goof much credit even if he did at this stage of his career,

even if he did does that mean the other guy is all of a sudden entertaining?