Mr. 305 Blaze

I swear the term jobber or even glorified jobber is seriously being use loosely on here. Dolph Ziggler is clearly a upper mid-carder who is in the midst of his push as the MITB winner to eventually become the next Paper Champion similar to Jack Swagger and Rey Mysterio. I personally wish he was a glorified jobber though cause he is not entertaining at all even though I did like his segment with A.J. in the locker room that night.

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TrentBarretaFan

Why for IWC roster is divided into two parts: main eventers and jobbers? There are main eventers, upper mid cardera, mid carders, lower mid carders, low carders and jobbers. Does Ziggler belong to jobbers category? Nope. He is upper mid carder.

TeamHeadsh0t

He will be WWE champion many times in years to come, he has the full package.

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@MrDrewFoley

I don't think so. He's a heel who seems to be able to keep people behind him whilst losing. There aren't enough of those about.

Plus, he's feuding with John Cena. Even Vince is getting involved a bit. Things is going well for Chavo's ball polisher.

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NoyK

Jobbers don't get clean wins over Randy Orton on Survivor Series, nor do they win MITB briefcases.

His losses lately are against main eventers, I wouldn't consider that jobbing.

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PotterNo1

Well I guess Chris Benoit or Jericho was a 'glorified jobber' because they went years before they won the top prize- sure, they always lost the title or No1 contenders matches they were in but they had several mid-card IC/US/European title runs to their name in the mean time- remind you of anyone?

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TomasThunder619

Ziggler should have been a main eventer by now.

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Because the roster is so thin I measure heel status with kofi Kingston. If you beat kofi, You're a main event heel. If not, you're not getting pushed. Right now dolph is a main event heel.


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Totally agree, getting a win over Orton and winning the MITB briefcase this year are two big highlights to be proud of, if he gets a win over Cena (whether it be clear or through cheating) then 2013 looks bright for Ziggler, a guy who three years ago I thought would be a mid carder for life, Ziggler has sure made a fool out of me

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Foley was an upper card guy. Thing is, he won about as often as he lost and when he lost it was after he typically dished out and took a preposterous amount of punishment. Getting a win over Mankind and Cactus Jack meant something. He was never booked like or put on the level of Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker or Triple H but those guys knew if they got in a feud with Mankind or Cactus jack it was going to be a motherfuckin' war.

Now Ziggler is kind of in that upper card position. He's higher to me than a pure midcarder but he loses clean all the time in just regular matches. He's done it twice, in under 15 minutes both times, to an opponent who was kayfabe injured. In back to back weeks, no less. It looks bad. You can lose and still look like a God. Ziggler loses too easy and it makes him look like a geek.

Foley felt like more of an upper card guy to me. Ziggler does feel like jobber-to-the-stars enhancement talent. People say he is a victim of his in ring skills but especially the bumping ability. He's in the make-the-other-guy-look-good role right now.