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He's wherever Kofi is. Those two stay on par, cardwise.

WWE is filled with 'Good Ol' Boys' in power positions. It is just how it is, and I will keep calling WWE, Pro Wrestling in USA, as well as some of it's fans out on this because it is bollox. I do notice an apparent effort being made to mitigate this somewhat, but time will ultimately tell.

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Re: Is Ziggler just glorified jobber of WWE?

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Gunn feuded with the most (or 2nd most) popular superstar in 1999 whose popularity was probably 5 more times than Cena ever had in his peak.

Plus an being an IC title holder (which Billy had for like 3 weeks) during that period was way more prestigious than being a WWE champion in 2012.
So true considering the people who's had the belt in the last few years.

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He's wherever Kofi is. Those two stay on par, cardwise.


you can't be serious .... I don't think kofi has won money in the bank or ever will.... Or hasn't been in a big time fued like ziggler is in

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Re: Is Ziggler just glorified jobber of WWE?

He's a midcarder. An ACTUAL midcarder, in that he beats everyone but top guys and not a midcarder in the "Anyone who's not a main eventer" sense people use these days.
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Re: Is Ziggler just glorified jobber of WWE?

Didnt he beat Orton cleanly Weeks ago and beat him to win the Survivors Series match? Do ppl have short term memories or something. He hasnt looked good against Cena but in honesty not many look good against Cena. Ziggler was already one of the tops in in the ring and he has really improved on the mic. If someone that talented is a jobber then idk what jobber means anymore.


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Didnt he beat Orton cleanly Weeks ago and beat him to win the Survivors Series match? Do ppl have short term memories or something. He hasnt looked good against Cena but in honesty not many look good against Cena. Ziggler was already one of the tops in in the ring and he has really improved on the mic. If someone that talented is a jobber then idk what jobber means anymore.
being a jobber has nothing to do with talent. Some of the most talented superstars of all-time were "glorified jobbers". Guys like Chris Jericho and Mick Foley would probably make most top 10 lists of most talented superstars. They often feuded with and even sometimes beat the top stars. Most of the time though, they just went out and got their ass beat.
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Yup. Bland and uncharismatic glorified jobber with a briefcase.

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Re: Is Ziggler just glorified jobber of WWE?

Jobber to the stars, yeah. Full-fledged jobber, nahhh.


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Re: Is Ziggler just glorified jobber of WWE?

"Jobber" is once again used out of context.
"Jobbers" don't really get full programs with top stars.
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Re: Is Ziggler just glorified jobber of WWE?

so much blind marking going on here from both sides of the argument.

Fuck you over-zealous Ziggler marks who get all defensive when someone questions his abilities. And fuck you guys who think Ziggler cant do anything noteworthy.

Bottom line is this. Ziggler is an incredibly talented in-ring performer, who is very good at what he does. As for his "charisma", he isnt on the same level as a guy like HBK or the Rock at all. He does, however, possess the ability to hold his own on the mic. Watch WWE Download on Youtube and anything else NOT ON Monday Night Raw, and he EXCELS at being on a mic...but he needs improvement, and it needs to happen soon, or he's going to be in trouble. Part of the problem is that he probably just accepts the lines WWE gives him, and lets that be that.

And whoever said "LOLOLOL ZIGGLER HASNT FEUDED WITH THE TOP GUY IN THE COMPANY"...were you watching last year around this time when Ziggler was in a mini feud (the SAME kind of feud Gunn had with the Rock) with CM Punk? Oh, what's that, you didnt?

When it comes down to it, Ziggler is NOT a jobber to the stars. The WWE are breaking him away from Vickie, and likely letting him go on his own. Theyre FINALLY going to let him either sink or swim on his own. I think we should ALL reserve our judgement until we've had ample time to assess the job he's done by himself.

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