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So, when Punk takes a few weeks off and ratings don't change at all, what are the rating marks gonna say then?
No way he takes time off. He may not wrestle but he'll be on the show.
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I actually do. He isn't the most over guy on the roster. There are some nights he gets reactions, then there are nights he gets almost nothing til a weak 10 second feed me more chant with the crowd in the background not really looking all that interested. For crying out loud... at a PPV he hardly had reactions befitting "most over guy on the roster" or "blowing the roof off". But please, keep believing he is the second coming of the Ultimate Warrior while the rest of us sigh through his pathetic "legitimate" matches and even watch him screw up his squashes. At least the Warrior had some damn charisma and could pull out a classic match a few times. I don't know if this guy can even be part of an actual good match.
His reactions are pretty good. He's not getting Austin pops but for today's apathetic audience he's doing well.
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So, when Punk takes a few weeks off and ratings don't change at all, what are the rating marks gonna say then?
They'll say that the people watching are only the ones left from all the audience that Punk ran away.
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I think Vince can breath a sigh of relief now. The string of below 3.0 ratings will soon be over.

More real tough guys in the main event scene = more interest on the product

Can't wait till "Duuuuwayne" finally takes the title off his non-drawing, as-tough-as-a-Pizza-Hut-delivery-guy, mediocre-wrestling-abilitied (who got carried by Cena in the greatest match of his life), whiny, skinnyfat a**.
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I actually do. He isn't the most over guy on the roster. There are some nights he gets reactions, then there are nights he gets almost nothing til a weak 10 second feed me more chant with the crowd in the background not really looking all that interested. For crying out loud... at a PPV he hardly had reactions befitting "most over guy on the roster" or "blowing the roof off". But please, keep believing he is the second coming of the Ultimate Warrior while the rest of us sigh through his pathetic "legitimate" matches and even watch him screw up his squashes. At least the Warrior had some damn charisma and could pull out a classic match a few times. I don't know if this guy can even be part of an actual good match.
He does not get the reaction on the level of Rock/Lesnar but it is still big. Ryback has not pulled out any classics yet becuase he has only had 2 real matches. He has only been here for 7 months now. And one of those two real matches was only 10 minutes long, and the other was a pretty damn decent triple threat match. O and by the way, he was involved in a great match at Summerslam 2010 in the NEXUS/WWE tag match.
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Just expect about 834 bumps from Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins, and Maddox in defense of Punk at TLC.
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His reactions are pretty good. He's not getting Austin pops but for today's apathetic audience he's doing well.
I'm not arguing he isn't getting reactions at all. But it varies wildly at best. He had one night where people were actually close to wild for him, since it has been mid level cheers and chants to almost nothing. I hate Cena, but that guy pretty much garners a reaction regardless of where he is... cheer or boo it's usually one of hte loudest of the night.

The real problem is, is that the WWE has completely fractured the fanbase. There are the casuals then there are the "smarkier" wrestling fans. Ryback gets reactions with casual crowds, still not huge but I will admit it is decent. You take him out of there and he hardly gets anything. He hasn't reached Cena's level of heat with smarks... most of us just don't give a fuck. Now, he wins the title, expect to seem him booed. If anyone shows up. Him winning the title right now would be a huge joke. I mean, the guy didn't even look like he belonged in the ring with Cena and Punk at the PPV. He just isn't on that level and he has shown no ability to actually be anything more than a mid card mainstay.

And sadly that fracture goes two ways... guys like Rhodes and Sandow can get massive reactions in smark cities but hardly move the dial in casual arenas. Luckily, Ziggler seems to be garnering more and more reactions.

The worst thing to happen to the WWE was the insistence on aiming for the casual. That desire to grab that audience is what caused the watered down, hectic booking and product that we get now. It's all about making a noise to try and catch attention instead of trying to create a long melody. They just want the knee jerk reactions now. And that style of booking has scared away wrestling fans and you just cannot maintain a crowd of ADD casuals. That is proven in every single entertainment medium. Casuals NEVER stick around. So be true to your core audience.
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I hope Punk has a speedy recovery. Him and Ziggler, currently, are the only reasons to watch this pathetic ass bull shit.

Fuck WWE if they put on Ryback vs Rock. I don't want to see Rock/Cena II, but I'd honestly pick that if it delays Ryback's bullshit "title" run that he's probably penciled in for in 2013. What a pathetic match that'd be, wasting The Rock on "Skip Sheffield". PLEASE RECOVER QUICK PUNK!

Maybe they can do Rock/Cena II at the Rumble, and have Punk win as a returning entrant, setting up Rock/Punk or Rock/Punk/Cena at Mania.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:48 PM   #319 (permalink)
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If it is a knee meniscus tear, then Punk should be perfectly fine for the Royal Rumble pay-per-view.A knee meniscus tear is a injury that usually does need surgery as in this case. Generally it causes major pain/swelling and knee locking, but the overall knee function/ligaments/muscle are all still in working order(they just can't work, but are undamaged). The fact the surgery was on the same day of the injury kinda grants that the muscle/ligaments are still in good shape, as they would wait 1-2 days if any issues arose with them before surgery(to treat swelling and diagnose further). As for the severity, it depends. Meniscus tears have a range/degree of severity about them, generally it takes 2-3 days for a light/medicore tear to actually cause pain/swelling. Punk's knee seems to have been bad for a while, with this dark spot/match being the straw to break the camels back so to speak. Knee athtroscopy, the procedure done the treat this, is not as invasive as many other knee surgeries. Generally speaking, it is a short and simple surgery with the main side-effect being muscle weakness, due to the body's swelling/locking response to the surgery. Working out and Physical Therapy are the ways to solve this and they can be started as soon as the patient is discharged really. Recovery times from surgery vary greatly. The minimm being 9-14 days for very tough/elite atheletes who can tolerate a lot of pain(aswell as being massively dedicated to the rehab program/reigime), and the maximum being 4 weeks. With Cena's elbow athroscopy we basically saw him recover in roughly 2 or so weeks, but being rested for some time longer for the safety aspect. It depends on the severity and Punk himself on whether on not he can make TLC. He will definitely be able to wrestle the Royal Rumble unless something else happens or complications arise from surgery. Given Punk's past record of recovery:
(1) Elbow meniscus surgery, recovered in 13 or so days
(2) Fractured Skull, was told not to work out for 1 year, returned to ring after 40-50 days
I would say he will simply work through it all and make the RR. Of course, I could easily be wrong, and all this is based on the assumption its a knee meniscus tear only.

Either way, sucks to see him injured, especially since I'm a mark for the guy. But I only really want to see him recover, if he has to drop the title or plans get fucked up due to this, shit happens. At least he will beat Cena's 380 day reign.
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I'm not arguing he isn't getting reactions at all. But it varies wildly at best. He had one night where people were actually close to wild for him, since it has been mid level cheers and chants to almost nothing. I hate Cena, but that guy pretty much garners a reaction regardless of where he is... cheer or boo it's usually one of hte loudest of the night.

The real problem is, is that the WWE has completely fractured the fanbase. There are the casuals then there are the "smarkier" wrestling fans. Ryback gets reactions with casual crowds, still not huge but I will admit it is decent. You take him out of there and he hardly gets anything. He hasn't reached Cena's level of heat with smarks... most of us just don't give a fuck. Now, he wins the title, expect to seem him booed. If anyone shows up. Him winning the title right now would be a huge joke. I mean, the guy didn't even look like he belonged in the ring with Cena and Punk at the PPV. He just isn't on that level and he has shown no ability to actually be anything more than a mid card mainstay.

And sadly that fracture goes two ways... guys like Rhodes and Sandow can get massive reactions in smark cities but hardly move the dial in casual arenas. Luckily, Ziggler seems to be garnering more and more reactions.

The worst thing to happen to the WWE was the insistence on aiming for the casual. That desire to grab that audience is what caused the watered down, hectic booking and product that we get now. It's all about making a noise to try and catch attention instead of trying to create a long melody. They just want the knee jerk reactions now. And that style of booking has scared away wrestling fans and you just cannot maintain a crowd of ADD casuals. That is proven in every single entertainment medium. Casuals NEVER stick around. So be true to your core audience.
You saying MITB 2011 had the crowd "close to wild for him"?

Also, his massive pops persisted for the months following that. It wasn't until he was lost in the shuffle of HHH/tagging with HHH/second fiddle to Cena that they quieted down.
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