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post #6511 of 9091 (permalink) Old 03-03-2013, 02:01 PM
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I understand about "the rub" and putting over the younger generation and all that. Thank you for attempting to explain. I grasp the concept. What I am saying is that from a narrative standpoint, a run-in screwjob of an ending to something that has been built up as the Rubicon no one can cross - like The Streak - would be very unsatisfying to a large portion of the viewing audience. Even if it was the lead up to an amazing plotline, like a Punk face redemption, or an NWOesque faction's domination, I don't think it would be embraced as a good storytelling decision.

Punk wins clean, there will be critics who are not pleased. But it is not the end of the world, and sets us up for WM30, with a rematch and (hopefully) retirement. Heyman World Order screws over The Undertaker, and there will be tears and recriminations.

As for who's buying WrestleMania seats, I think we need to define our terms better. There are Smarks - crotchety old characters like us who watch tape from the indies and dissect motivations of fictional characters and fantasy book when we should be working or whatever. There are Fans - who love the product, for the most part, and cheer for who they're supposed to, with a few exceptions. And then there are Casuals - they might catch an episode of RAW or watch a PPV at a sports bar, but they're not invested.
See, it's a nice concept, but Vince McMahon's greatest character and longest running gimmick isn't going to be ended in a match before hie retirement and certainly not by a guy who isn't The Man. I wouldn't have it any other way in the end. Getting involved with the Undertaker is not very good for the Shield. It will mean certain defeat. A younger guy never goes over a veteran without another veteran being there to pull them back down.

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i dont know why everyone is so impressed with the shield all they are is a smaller nexus.....
Because the Nexus were al pretty muchl a bunch of jobbers (Daniel Bryan was kicked out he does not count) where as the Shield are all future world champions?
Sure Wade Barrett is a mid card star now and Ryback is repackaged but he even got hurt and was not a huge part of the Nexus.

Not to mention the Nexus took 6 or 7 guys to beat up what the shield does with three guys.

Dean Ambrose is the next big thing and he is going to be a huge star. Seth Rollins also is going to be a star he is a cross of CM Punk and Jeff Hardy, and Roman Reigns has suprised me, he could def. be a star, at least as big as Ryback

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post #6513 of 9091 (permalink) Old 03-03-2013, 02:15 PM
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See, it's a nice concept, but Vince McMahon's greatest character and longest running gimmick isn't going to be ended in a match before hie retirement and certainly not by a guy who isn't The Man. I wouldn't have it any other way in the end. Getting involved with the Undertaker is not very good for the Shield. It will mean certain defeat. A younger guy never goes over a veteran without another veteran being there to pull them back down.
This is what I've been trying to explain.

And if, for some reason, it did happen -- the fans would be incensed. It would be as reviled a move as the Fingerpoke of Doom times 20.


. . .anyway, I've spent too long arguing the point. Does somebody have some pictures of Rollins' dogs or .gifs of the Shield cuddling after knocking the tar out of a big babyface hero?

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This is what I've been trying to explain.

And if, for some reason, it did happen -- the fans would be incensed. It would be as reviled a move as the Fingerpoke of Doom times 20.


. . .anyway, I've spent too long arguing the point. Does somebody have some pictures of Rollins' dogs or .gifs of the Shield cuddling after knocking the tar out of a big babyface hero?
Eer, can you settle for Roman Reigns image?



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Dean pointing the way



...must be leader!

and a seth pic.. you'll appreciate


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post #6516 of 9091 (permalink) Old 03-03-2013, 02:40 PM
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Damn, that is uncanny. Have Roman Reigns and Rob Trujillo ever been seen in the same room together?

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No vest. No shirt. No problem.

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post #6518 of 9091 (permalink) Old 03-03-2013, 02:47 PM
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Presumably, everyone believes the babyface comes out on top at Mania in regards to he top 4 billed matches.

Cena over Rock
Triple H over Brock
Taker over Punk
Del Rio over Swagger (to cement him as a hero)

This makes me think The Shield will actually be victorious in their match to balance out the card. While it's subjective to think there is any true formula to a villain or hero winning matches, you know a heel will have to come out on top in at least one of these matches.



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I don't actually think Swagger's going to lose his match. The feud with Del Rio is too good to be a one PPV only event.

WWE has too many damn pay per views, and it impedes their storytelling. /old-lady-rant

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I don't actually think Swagger's going to lose his match. The feud with Del Rio is too good to be a one PPV only event.

WWE has too many damn pay per views, and it impedes their storytelling. /old-lady-rant
Although the feud is good and I'd like it to continue, surely Swagger has to see some sort of punishment after 'Mania?

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