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Old 02-28-2013, 11:24 AM   #6361 (permalink)
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There is not much good to say about Ohno right now. His NXT work has been very mediocre. Aside from a good sense of humour, some sit and decent mic skills he's proven a huge disappointment. I can't understand why people are clamoring to see him debut on the main roster. His matches are boring. Not even technical or clinical, just rest hold after rest hold into the final elbow. Poor stuff, really just dismal work. The tag team with Kruger was helping him out and his feud with the equally boring Steamboat was surprisingly okay, but he's nothing special right now. Not at all. COming from the indies doesn't mean you will translate well. Cesaro had actual wrestling talent to help him out and strength and an excellent physique. Aside from being an okay talker, Ohno is an over hyped mess.

I think guys like Kruger, Graves and Wyatt are the ones WWE should be bringing up to the main roster. These guys all have some form of talent, whether it's character, in the ring or just mic ability.

I re-watched that promo they cut on Monday, the 25th. Ambrose has sold me on his talking at least, but I don't see the new Roddy Piper people have been hyping. Decent, but he needs to cut it out with the facial expressions. He's trying to hard to come across as... something and it fails. He just looks stupid. Jake Roberts had facial expressions down to a T. Ambrose needs to check those out.

Reigns was okay, didn't speak too loudly or shout this time so became across really well. Even Ambrose patted him and gave him a commanding smile.

Rollins is... uggh. Dolph Ziggler good. Midcard good in other words. His Iowa accent is pretty awful, and his small stature compared to the other two makes him look out of his depth,
Cesaro was trained BY Ohno. Ohno, when he's on, is one of the best wrestlers in the world, and proved it countless times in IWA and ROH. He'll prove it to most doubters once he gets the call to RAW or Smackdown as well. I sense that he's bored down in NXT and holding back considerably. I think it's a rather reasonable assertion to make as well since we have access to all his previous work and can see how much more motivated he was there. The biggest problem with Ohno is the new gimmick he has! He should never be a vicious heel, and is at his strongest when he's a clean cut cocky heel/cool face similar to jericho with catchphrases and Mohammed ali esque mannerisms. That is how to use him properly.

Just let the man be "That young knockout kid" and problem solved!
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:33 AM   #6362 (permalink)
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Cesaro was trained BY Ohno. Ohno, when he's on, is one of the best wrestlers in the world, and proved it countless times in IWA and ROH. He'll prove it to most doubters once he gets the call to RAW or Smackdown as well. I sense that he's bored down in NXT and holding back considerably. I think it's a rather reasonable assertion to make as well since we have access to all his previous work and can see how much more motivated he was there. The biggest problem with Ohno is the new gimmick he has! He should never be a vicious heel, and is at his strongest when he's a clean cut cocky heel/cool face similar to jericho with catchphrases and mohammad ali esque mannerisms. That is how to use him properly.

Just let the man be "That young knockout kid" and problem solved!
Holding back? Bored? Well that's plain idiotic. He should be earning his stripes, putting on a good performance. Bray Wyatt doesn't hold back! He goes out there and puts on his best act because he's a hard worker. If Ohno is feeling bored then he should get a new job. There are tons of guys who would want his spot, and if he won't work hard to keep it then he should lose it.

Cesaro was trained by Ohno? Okay, then this is a case of the student becoming greater than the master. I've seen a bit of Ohno's indy work and it's good stuff. His WWE style is very bad though. He's been there a year and he still can't adjust? What's wrong with him? Find a style that works and stick with it! His NXT work is terrible. His matches are mediocre and slow. I like Ohno, or at least I did, but he's not showing anything impressive right now. If he can't learn to adjust to the WWE style of wrestling then he should consider a switch back to the indies.

This is developmental. If Ohno wants a new gimmick then he should pitch one. Developmental is the place for guys to change up their acts. Now he is a decent talker and reasonably funny, so maybe having a gimmick that would let him talk more would be good, but it doesn't change the fact that his matches are boring and plodding.
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Holding back? Bored? Well that's plain idiotic. He should be earning his stripes, putting on a good performance. Bray Wyatt doesn't hold back! He goes out there and puts on his best act because he's a hard worker. If Ohno is feeling bored then he should get a new job. There are tons of guys who would want his spot, and if he won't work hard to keep it then he should lose it.

Cesaro was trained by Ohno? Okay, then this is a case of the student becoming greater than the master. I've seen a bit of Ohno's indy work and it's good stuff. His WWE style is very bad though. He's been there a year and he still can't adjust? What's wrong with him? Find a style that works and stick with it! His NXT work is terrible. His matches are mediocre and slow. I like Ohno, or at least I did, but he's not showing anything impressive right now. If he can't learn to adjust to the WWE style of wrestling then he should consider a switch back to the indies.

This is developmental. If Ohno wants a new gimmick then he should pitch one. Developmental is the place for guys to change up their acts. Now he is a decent talker and reasonably funny, so maybe having a gimmick that would let him talk more would be good, but it doesn't change the fact that his matches are boring and plodding.
Again, THIS is where I say you're being completely ignorant as hell.

If you're a wrestling fan, you'd know. WWE holds back, massively, and you do what you're told. You don't go out there and just DO STUFF that impresses people. No, you have your limits. Adjusting to WWE style could be hard for someone like him. Look what they did with Sin Cara.

WWE picked the guy up dry from his normal style, limited him, and now everyone think he's bad. The problem isn't with the talent, the problem is with WWE limiting people. D-Bry is another great example. Thing is, yes, he did adjust. He also had alot more play ground.

Same with CM Punk. Hell, even he talked about not getting much credit and being screwed over when he left the indies. As I said, don't look at the fucking talent for that issue. Saying Ohno needs to change jobs just blew me away. Maybe WWE should really start fucking fixing their indies. Actually, there was a point when the indies even worked well.

Till the jack ass named Johnny Ace starting making changes. Guarnteed, you let Paul Heyman or Cornette back into the game, they could build up Kassius just like they did Punk.

Kassius has potentinal, and you're pretty much one of those people stopping this guy from going anywhere big. Don't shoot the guy down because you think he's not going anywhere. On that note, who the hell are you to claim that?

The crowd is behind him. He's entertaining. He has a nice move set. The gimmick is nice as well. You aren't actually bringing up any points yourself. You're just saying "WELL, I THINK HE SUCKS. SO HE SHOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE." That's not a nice reason.
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Ambrose's facial expressions are one of the reasons why I love his promos to be honest. He's a natural.
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Again, THIS is where I say you're being completely ignorant as hell.

If you're a wrestling fan, you'd know. WWE holds back, massively, and you do what you're told. You don't go out there and just DO STUFF that impresses people. No, you have your limits. Adjusting to WWE style could be hard for someone like him. Look what they did with Sin Cara.

WWE picked the guy up dry from his normal style, limited him, and now everyone think he's bad. The problem isn't with the talent, the problem is with WWE limiting people. D-Bry is another great example. Thing is, yes, he did adjust. He also had alot more play ground.

Same with CM Punk. Hell, even he talked about not getting much credit and being screwed over when he left the indies. As I said, don't look at the fucking talent for that issue. Saying Ohno needs to change jobs just blew me away. Maybe WWE should really start fucking fixing their indies. Actually, there was a point when the indies even worked well.

Till the jack ass named Johnny Ace starting making changes. Guarnteed, you let Paul Heyman or Cornette back into the game, they could build up Kassius just like they did Punk.

Kassius has potentinal, and you're pretty much one of those people stopping this guy from going anywhere big. Don't shoot the guy down because you think he's not going anywhere. On that note, who the hell are you to claim that?

The crowd is behind him. He's entertaining. He has a nice move set. The gimmick is nice as well. You aren't actually bringing up any points yourself. You're just saying "WELL, I THINK HE SUCKS. SO HE SHOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE." That's not a nice reason.
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The Shield interfere in the main event.
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I saw it. They aren't at the next tapings so I don't know why they were even there.
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holyshit what a pop Shield got on NXT Crowd legit got off their seats. I didn't see the 1. contender match but the crowed seemed to be bored out of their ass.

Amaazing stuff. (although a bit awkward how Rollins got out of the ring similar to Ambrose )
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holyshit what a pop Shield got on NXT Crowd legit got off their seats. I didn't see the 1. contender match but the crowed seemed to be bored out of their ass.

Amaazing stuff. (although a bit awkward how Rollins got out of the ring similar to Ambrose )
Yep huge pop and great promo! I loved Rollins especially and he improves by the day!
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I saw it. They aren't at the next tapings so I don't know why they were even there.
the NXT Champion Langston wasn't there either. They had tapings when the 4 of them were in the Middle East. They probably continue where they left off in the next tapings
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