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Old 02-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #4351 (permalink)
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Default Re: Please shed some light on why The Shield got involved in CM Punk Vs The Rock.

They done it because they were paid to by Heyman at least (and probably Punk too but he may deny knowledge of it). They kept the lights out because in Punk and Heyman's mind that would be inconclusive enough to prove that it was The Shield who interfered.

But Vince threw the old "can't call what you can't see" line out the window and accepted that it was The Shield who done it.

What I want to know is... and no one touched on this that I recall - why didn't Punk just do the obvious heel tactic and get disqualified in a traditional way. The match had countouts and DQs applicable as far as I could tell so why didn't he take that easy way out?

I could understand Punk wanting to beat Rock due to the feud and such but when it clearly wasn't working he coulda just grabbed a chair and whacked the Rock with it - problem over. Presumably if he did do that Vince would restart the match anyway, but why wouldn't Punk's character at least try that get out clause?

It's why I hate the whole DQ title situation... every heel would, by their character's standards, use this get out every time they could.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #4352 (permalink)
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Elimination Chamber will be brilliant if booked correctly but anyone in the way of Cena right now is likely to get steamrolled which would be a shame, not sure I can see anyone pinning Cena if we do get the 6 man tag Elimination Chamber Match Would be brutal.
I posted about this scenario in the Elimination Chamber section - the thread was based on a War Games style match for the PPV main event. I know that lots of people may not like the final outcome in the booking I have planned out for the match, but it's a completely logical way for something like this to unfold. I'd love to get people's thoughts on this:

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I love this idea so much and it would certainly be a good match, plus it gives some guys something to do leading up to Wrestlemania. Here's how I'd book it - The Shield vs. Cena/Ryback/Sheamus.

There's an entirely logical way to book this match so everyone comes out looking good...
- I'd start Rollins & Sheamus, Sheamus controls for most of the start
- Next in is Reigns, helps Rollins wear down Sheamus
- Ryback in next hot: quick succession of moves on Rollins & Reigns while Sheamus is down
- As a Shield member is in the corner, Ryback charges for a shoulder tackle but misses & smashes head on Chamber window
- Sheamus recovers in time to help save Ryback from a 2 on 1 beatdown
- Ambrose in with Ryback still down, triple powerbomb, Sheamus eliminated
- Ryback recovers, quick moves to all 3, Shellshocked to Rollins, Rollins eliminated
- Cena in hot, goes to deliver AA to Reigns, Ambrose low blow
- While Cena is down, Ambrose & Reigns take out the monster, Ryback eliminated
- 2 0n 1 odds now, but Cena slams Ambrose onto Chamber floor, AA to Reigns, Reigns eliminated

Up next is the most important section & it needs to be booked in a similar fashion or the Shield loses a lot of steam

- With Ambrose & Cena left, Ambrose MUST get the upper hand for Cena to look vulnerable
- As Ambrose stands over Cena & gloats, Maddox comes from beneath the Chamber, into the ring behind Ambrose & low blows him
- Cena recovers enough to AA Ambrose & pick up the win for his team

I think that as long as the eliminations are alternated & Maddox is involved to help Cena get the win, everybody comes out smelling like roses. Cena doesn't lose, but the Shield looks like they were going to win the match without Maddox's interference. Maddox gets a measure of revenge, even if it's short-lived for him to get beaten to a pulp by the Shield on TV again. The main points from this? The Shield has some individual moments to shine, Reigns is NEVER in the ring 1 on 1 (I'm not sure he could carry an extended portion of the match), and most importantly Cena isn't invincible and needed some help to escape.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:13 AM   #4353 (permalink)
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The shield is stupid, but it's not their fault.

It just doesn't feel like they "destroy" the people that the WWE makes it look like they "destroy". We need blood to make things really intense and the beatings need to last longer. The thing is that if it wasn't PG they could reach their heights as the bad guys, and it would be really cool and badass. Right now it just seems like some mid carders trying to fight anybody just because there is three of them.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:23 AM   #4354 (permalink)
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I posted about this scenario in the Elimination Chamber section - the thread was based on a War Games style match for the PPV main event. I know that lots of people may not like the final outcome in the booking I have planned out for the match, but it's a completely logical way for something like this to unfold. I'd love to get people's thoughts on this:
But why have this match? There's no belt on the line and cena already has a title shot. Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't almost all if not ALL elimination chamber matches been for a belt or at least a title shot?

Sorry but IMO its just a pointless match. I mean, what part of that is going to make you HAVE to watch raw the following night? A Maddox explanation? Please....
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:38 AM   #4355 (permalink)
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Default Re: Please shed some light on why The Shield got involved in CM Punk Vs The Rock.

It was the shield. There was a second where there was a big camera flash and you could see Ambrose holding Ryback.
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But why have this match? There's no belt on the line and cena already has a title shot. Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't almost all if not ALL elimination chamber matches been for a belt or at least a title shot?

Sorry but IMO its just a pointless match. I mean, what part of that is going to make you HAVE to watch raw the following night? A Maddox explanation? Please....
You're right, no chamber match has been for anything other than a belt or a title shot - but why does every chamber match have to have a championship at stake? It's a chance to make the Elimination Chamber about something more than that... it's a brutal structure where a grudge can be settled between two groups.

With the way the Shield has been jumping people left & right, putting them in the EC takes away their numbers advantage - they've cost Cena & Ryback a chance to win the WWE title and they've gotten in Sheamus' business as well. It's a vehicle for storytelling too, and having Maddox interfere is logical and provides some continuity. I see several benefits to this match: it gives Cena a storyline until the program with the Rock really picks up, you have the chance to blow off the Ryback/Shield storyline if so desired, and the Shield can move into a new direction - whether that's with Punk as a leader/mentor or somewhere else, it's a chance to evolve the characters.
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Did anyone else mark the fuck out when JBL was telling Cena to get out of the ring?
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:10 PM   #4358 (permalink)
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You're right, no chamber match has been for anything other than a belt or a title shot - but why does every chamber match have to have a championship at stake? It's a chance to make the Elimination Chamber about something more than that... it's a brutal structure where a grudge can be settled between two groups.

With the way the Shield has been jumping people left & right, putting them in the EC takes away their numbers advantage - they've cost Cena & Ryback a chance to win the WWE title and they've gotten in Sheamus' business as well. It's a vehicle for storytelling too, and having Maddox interfere is logical and provides some continuity. I see several benefits to this match: it gives Cena a storyline until the program with the Rock really picks up, you have the chance to blow off the Ryback/Shield storyline if so desired, and the Shield can move into a new direction - whether that's with Punk as a leader/mentor or somewhere else, it's a chance to evolve the characters.
Exactly this.

I mean they've attacked people coming out the crowd and then just leaving them down. If you put them in the Chamber with Ryback/Sheamus/Cena, there is no escape. It's just a brutal 3 on 3 match up where anything goes. It could potentially be even more brutal than TLC although they are limited with the lack of chairs, tables etc.

But I could definitely see Ryback or Reigns spearing someone straight through one of the pods which I think is always a nice spot. We'd probably get high flying Rollins off the top of it too!
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We'd probably get high flying Rollins off the top of it too!
Assuredly, we'd get Rollins off the top of the Chamber. Between that and the general need to see Reigns spear someone through it, there's reason enough to BOOK IT NOW.
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