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Old 01-04-2013, 04:06 PM   #3351 (permalink)
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Just about the right type of rebuttal I'd expect from you. Thanks for allowing me to give a shortened reply.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:08 PM   #3352 (permalink)
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Also, though it makes for an odd conversation as it involves the booking of the same guy in different roles...
No one from the shield has been booked strong solo. Reigns appears to be the enforcer but is outmuscled by ryback by a long way.
Skip Sheffield who was the enforcer of nexus was booked very strong at summerslam and as overpowering Cena several times.
No member of shield looks like they could beat any upper midcarder at this point.
They need to be forced into some solo matches, they can still 3 man beat down post match after strong individual showings.
Let's be honest, Reigns shouldn't be booked as stronger or as strong as Ryback. . .because he isn't.

As Skip Sheffield (Ryback), he was as strong or stronger than Cena in reality and looked like it, so it made sense to have him booked as a force. Reigns will look better in contrast to other wrestlers when he isn't facing Ryback. Reigns' look and build are decent, so I don't think that's exactly a weakness for him.

No one from the shield has been booked strong solo since they haven't been booked solo at all. That will come with time, just have patience. You're putting the cart before the horse dude. But like the nexus, I don't think they're all going to be booked strong off jump. One of them is probably going to have to take that bullet. My guess would be Rollins early on.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:10 PM   #3353 (permalink)
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Sick of people dissing Reigns for his in-ring work. Reigns looks great in these brawling matches The Shield has been having lately. Not every wrestler has to do 100 suplexes and submissions, it's great to have varied styles.. and Reigns really takes me back to the Attitude Era with his style. PLUS, he is of Samoan heritage, related to The Rock, Rikishi and The Usos - and how many bad Samoan wrestlers can you think of?

Also, he sounds like a badass motherfucker when he talks. He doesn't need to rant for his character to get over, he looks cool as hell as the quiet toughman. I like all three guys, but Reigns stands out for me the most.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:33 PM   #3354 (permalink)
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Hey bro! Whilst this is true, and I love everything else about Reigns including ferocity and explosiveness, if it was his character he could do the soft spoken beast role MUCH MUCH better with better delivery and passion. If he is going to say only a few words, fine, but say them well, not in a monotone, poorly delivered way. Mark Henry is a soft spoken beast in his promos but delivers it amazingly so I highly doubt he's told to sound like that. Hell just look at his NXT promos and you can see he's pretty unrefined at best.
I think Reigns is doing well with the promo work in The Shield because I think his delivery suits his role. He's the silent, almost detached, guy until he gets in action. The guy that's a monster but only when he lets it out. If he was forced to speak more it would probably be much worse but in this role I think he complements the other two well.

Rollins has a much harder job because he needs to talk quite a lot which leaves him much more open to direct comparisons with Ambrose, and that's just not going to make you look any better. I think he's doing fine as well though (he's green but I've definitely seen worse guys), and I'm sure he'll get a lot better at it with time.

Ambrose is of course the guy to make you just sit there in anticipation, waiting for each sentence.
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Sick of people dissing Reigns for his in-ring work. Reigns looks great in these brawling matches The Shield has been having lately. Not every wrestler has to do 100 suplexes and submissions, it's great to have varied styles.. and Reigns really takes me back to the Attitude Era with his style. PLUS, he is of Samoan heritage, related to The Rock, Rikishi and The Usos - and how many bad Samoan wrestlers can you think of?

Also, he sounds like a badass motherfucker when he talks. He doesn't need to rant for his character to get over, he looks cool as hell as the quiet toughman. I like all three guys, but Reigns stands out for me the most.
I don't see tons of people bashing Roman's work in the ring, at least not in his current role with the Shield. I think people are going off his very few appearances on NXT and his work in FCW as well... and if that's all you were going by, I could see why someone might say his in-ring work is ehhh.

But, since he's been a part of the Shield with Ambrose & Rollins, he's looked spectacular. Others have said it before, but the way WWE is handling these three is outstanding. As a trio, they mask each other's weaknesses and no one has been exposed too much. Reigns has great presence, but his speaking abilities aren't at the same level as Rollins & Ambrose (obviously) and he's not as polished a ring competitor. He'll get there though, he's still learning.

As for Seth's promo ability, I still can't understand why people think he's garbage. He'll never be a complete natural on the mic as guys like Ambrose & Punk are, but he's worked hard to improve and it shows. Just go and watch some of his promos in ROH from 2009 and tell me he hasn't improved, I dare you.
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Let's be honest, Reigns shouldn't be booked as stronger or as strong as Ryback. . .because he isn't.

As Skip Sheffield (Ryback), he was as strong or stronger than Cena in reality and looked like it, so it made sense to have him booked as a force. Reigns will look better in contrast to other wrestlers when he isn't facing Ryback. Reigns' look and build are decent, so I don't think that's exactly a weakness for him.

No one from the shield has been booked strong solo since they haven't been booked solo at all. That will come with time, just have patience. You're putting the cart before the horse dude. But like the nexus, I don't think they're all going to be booked strong off jump. One of them is probably going to have to take that bullet. My guess would be Rollins early on.
Having big muscles =/= being strong.

Having big muscles = having big muscles.

Being strong = being strong.

Ryback may have the biggest muscles, but he's not actually as strong as he might look at first glance. Sure, he can probably out-power the man on the street but anyone whose as well trained as most wrestlers (let's not even bother talking about competitive fight training) will beat the fuck out of Ryback in a real fight.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:12 PM   #3357 (permalink)
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He looks like a maniac.

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Old 01-04-2013, 08:24 PM   #3358 (permalink)
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^ I love how his intensity in the ring matches his character.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:54 PM   #3359 (permalink)
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Just watched the TLC match again lol. JBL did an amazing job at putting them over. Really loved how he made Michael Cole feel silly at one point where Cole kept talking about the numbers game and Shield having the advantage while JBL eloquently put it that its a 3 on 3 match and the Shield are just working as a team.
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They need to have JBL on every telecast. I'll watch Smackdown matches I normally would FF because of the banter of JBL/Matthews. On Raw I could care less what King/Cole are talking about as they are mundane as face announcers.
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