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Old 12-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #2851 (permalink)
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My point is that argument could be applied to any talent in the WWE or pro wrestling in general right now. Ideas are recycled and packaged in a different way. It's been done for years. So you can't use that as a legitimate argument against the Shield. You might as well apply it as a negative for the entire roster.

You must have a very negative view point around the WWE right now correct?
I could do that, but unfortunately, this thread is about the Shield. Since bringing up this point for every thread on the forum about a superstar is counter-intuitive, and since Shield is the current hot topic of the WWE, it's worth mentioning while using them as an example. And yes, I'm not exactly finding anything positive about WWE at the moment. But please also consider that this began way before any of these 3 began in WWE.

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The Ryback thing is because he gets gassed after 10 mins and so they need to book him in a way so that it hides his weaknesses. If it was someone like Bryan or Kane, they wouldn't have been down for that long. You might see that as an excuse but considering the fact it was done in the SS match he was in too, it shows what I'm saying is correct.

As for Rollins, he clearly isn't selling that he's fully conscious. Look at his face, how does he look fully aware of his surroundings? He looks completely out of it. Reigns and Ambrose had to drag him up and out the arena, he can't be fully conscious with how his face was and the fact he had to be dragged out.
I feel that it would have been more effective to have him hauled away by medical staff. Just my opinion.

As for Ryback, that's another (probably obvious) thing that irks me about WWE. They feel the need to emphasize looks over performance. We get disasters like Ryback who is only enforcing the typecast. But I should save that for a Ryback discussion thread.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:47 PM   #2852 (permalink)
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:49 PM   #2853 (permalink)
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Look at Rollins in my sig for fuck sake
I can get a few outstanding points out of that sig:

-Rollins was still somewhat ambulatory. Sure he was seeing stars, but I do recall motion.
-Ambrose appears to be the center of that image.
-A still frame from just about any video in professional wrestling these days can imply a whole bunch of things.
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I can get a few outstanding points out of that sig:

-Rollins was still somewhat ambulatory. Sure he was seeing stars, but I do recall motion.
-Ambrose appears to be the center of that image.
-A still frame from just about any video in professional wrestling these days can imply a whole bunch of things.
you mean the motion of falling back down when trying to stand?

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Not at all, as it was pointed out numerous times over the commentary and was the story they told in the match that the shield worked as a unit, they divided and conquered. It was 3 individuals versus a team of 3 and their team work lead them to the victory.
Working as a unit is certainly what they did, as they managed to isolate each of the 3 members of the other team. See, it's the dividing and conquering part that I'm skeptical about. I didn't see that happening in the RAW's before or after. It went from each guy occupied with an opponent for a minute or two... to suddenly two or all three members spending a lot of time against one.
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you mean the motion of falling back down when trying to stand?

Well, hey! At least he showed that he was trying. No apparent need of medical supervision or anything. On the other hand, we have dead weights like Ryback who doesn't even have enough strength to at least pretend he's trying to stand or crawl to the barricade to get himself up. And look: I can see some Rollins arm movement, gripping the hanging chair. If he really was so knocked out, he wouldn't have tried to stand himself up from that chair (before he fell back).

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Working as a unit is certainly what they did, as they managed to isolate each of the 3 members of the other team. See, it's the dividing and conquering part that I'm skeptical about. I didn't see that happening in the RAW's before or after. It went from each guy occupied with an opponent for a minute or two... to suddenly two or all three members spending a lot of time against one.
In all the raws before they always had the numbers advantage, they were all run ins on lesser numbers and when they lost the numbers advantage they got chased off ( slammy raw) they also showed the team work on the slammy Raw, each guy was on 1, Ambrose knoced out Flair then instantly went to help his bud.
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In all the raws before they always had the numbers advantage, they were all run ins on lesser numbers and when they lost the numbers advantage they got chased off ( slammy raw) they also showed the team work on the slammy Raw, each guy was on 1, Ambrose knoced out Flair then instantly went to help his bud.
I'm not doubting that they showed teamwork and isolating 1 person on RAW. I mean when it was 3 against 3 outside TLC, they retreated. It could make viewers think, "Alright, so it's a fair match-up." But at TLC, it was for the most part, them dominating even though it was the same situation. It works fine with Next-Gen The Rock, but not the other 2.

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I genuinely hope Rollins doesn't do too many other big bumps.
The crazy 'leaping off high things' idea is one hand-me-down from the Attitude Era I would rather not see return.

In regards to who has the most potential. I think in terms of promo work, uniqueness and general entertainment value, Ambrose wins hands down.
However, Reigns has the brighter future title-wise. Ambrose will never win a world title. Sorry, I just don't see it happening. He's the guy who'll light up the undercard, make even the most boring feud outstanding, but he's not a World Title guy.
Reigns however is.

Not a knock on Ambrose, it's just that he's not marketable. But in terms of ring work and promo skills, he is the best in the group and perhaps one of the best in the company.
Just please, no more high spots. Seth nearly broke his damn neck.
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