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post #1281 of 9091 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 01:51 PM
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post #1282 of 9091 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 02:04 PM
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anyone who has watched his promos can see it as realistic. he portrays a man who lived a tough life and his scars are put on show. His psychopathic nature comes from his raising and how he applies everything in his life to those early experiences. He lacks trust, empathy and control because those where the necessary approaches he needed to survive, a la kayfabe.

Its more than just a carbon copy of the joker (although I believe his character was not directly influenced by Heath Ledger's portrayal for The Joker), it is something more believable than that.


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post #1283 of 9091 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 03:23 PM
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I'm fairly sure that Dean Ambrose has been using this whole deranged unhinged gimmick before the dark knight came out. May be Heath Ledger saw a youtube clip of Jon Moxley and decided to borrow some stuff. I guess we'll never know...
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post #1284 of 9091 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 03:43 PM
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Ok, he did. (Very funny too)



I acutally lol'd. Not because he wasn't the biggest bad guy in Batman, but because you actually typed that shit out.

Has this gimmick proven it's a main event level or 'is far more superior' to the other gimmicks that have proven themselves and drew huge in the business? Nah it hasn't. But you keep on hyping.
Of course I typed that out lol. It's true isn't it, no matter what terms I borrow to coin it. There are parellels between wrestling and just about everything, and the fact remains that a joker type character was more popular than a muscular type character in that comic world, so its possible that the same happens in the wwe universe.

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post #1285 of 9091 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 03:50 PM
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You gonna answer that other question? You can't really answer it. Because you've got no proof. I have.
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post #1286 of 9091 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 04:07 PM
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You gonna answer that other question? You can't really answer it. Because you've got no proof. I have.
What the drawing question? Of course I have no proof for that, the guy just debuted two weeks ago. But as far as being a more serious and believable gimmmick, in my opinion, Ambrose's joker gimmick can be taken way more seriously than a deadman, heart breaker, and face making comedian, no matter how much I enjoyed them all. The other poster said that his gimmick would make him a midcarder hence why I said all that to begin with.

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He hasn't proven his gimmick is superior to them other gimmicks. He hasn't gotten over with the crowd yet. He hasn't won a WWE title yet or main evented and drew money. Until he does that with that gimmick, then we can maybe start saying it's "far more superior".
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He hasn't proven his gimmick is superior to them other gimmicks. He hasn't gotten over with the crowd yet. He hasn't won a WWE title yet or main evented and drew money. Until he does that with that gimmick, then we can maybe start saying it's "far more superior".
Now you're mixing up performers and gimmicks. What the other poster responded to was the statement that the gimmick alone would make Ambrose a midcarder.

Getting the dead man gimmick, the heart breaker etc won't make you a main eventer and a legend. Those steps are taken by the performers and the gimmicks are just help, not the main reason.
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He hasn't proven his gimmick is superior to them other gimmicks. He hasn't gotten over with the crowd yet. He hasn't won a WWE title yet or main evented and drew money. Until he does that with that gimmick, then we can maybe start saying it's "far more superior".
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Now you're mixing up performers and gimmicks. What the other poster responded to was the statement that the gimmick alone would make Ambrose a midcarder.

Getting the dead man gimmick, the heart breaker etc won't make you a main eventer and a legend. Those steps are taken by the performers and the gimmicks are just help, not the main reason.
Exactly this. I'm not talking about the performer I'm talking about the gimmick. And Ambrose's gimmick IS far more superior when it comes to seriousness than the others I mentioned.

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Ok. I think I have gotten my wires crossed.
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