Re: What it have been better if dean ambrose debuted by himself?
Originally Posted by floyd2386
What they should do is have him slowly start going out of control and at the same time have Rollins start questioning their ways. It'd be a great way for them to have a slow building tension between Dean's psychotic nature and Seth's desire for doing what's honorable.
Not sure how Reigns would fit into this though.
I think Ambrose needs to split first (of his own accord). Build up his instability and have him just walk away from the group. Then later on have Reigns turn against Rollins, to make the face turn for Rollins.
It's not. Oh and Rock didn't make faces. When did you start watching wrestling?
Early 90s and oh he didn't did he?
The Joker gimmick is far more serious than the ones I mentioned and I don't know how you could argue it. Hell The Joker was the main event heel in Batman. It's not like we're talking about a Penguin gimmick, this is a freakin Joker gimmick from the "Killing Joke" done well in a serious manner.
Mark for: Daniel Bryan Danielson, CM Punk, Bray Wyatt, The Shield, The Kings of Wrestling (Hero and Cesaro), Damien Sandow, Austin Aries, Kane, Brock, Solomon Crowe, Kevin Steen, Big E, Enzo Amore, Sami Zayn, Christian.
All time: Austin, Rocky, Masked Kane, Kenta Kobashi, Vader, Mysterio, Mr. Perfect, Bossman, Taz, Jericho, Bam Bam Bigelow, Scott "Punch Line" Steiner, and Angle.
Originally Posted by Trumpet Thief
"I mean c'mon, it's not that Cena is "controversial" or "one hell of an interesting character". The crowd is made up of two groups: those who are smart enough to boo him now, and those who will regret cheering him in a couple of years."
anyone who has watched his promos can see it as realistic. he portrays a man who lived a tough life and his scars are put on show. His psychopathic nature comes from his raising and how he applies everything in his life to those early experiences. He lacks trust, empathy and control because those where the necessary approaches he needed to survive, a la kayfabe.
Its more than just a carbon copy of the joker (although I believe his character was not directly influenced by Heath Ledger's portrayal for The Joker), it is something more believable than that.
"Now for me the biggest part of it is elevating the belt. I donít believe a championship makes a wrestler and a wrestler makes a champion. I have to raise the profile even higher than the championship and make everybody want it because I have it. I want my performance to be at the highest level of anybody in the company. I want to make everybody step up to me. Iíll create my own challenges; I want to make sure the energy is pointing to me and the United States championship. I donít want it to be a trinket.Ē
I'm fairly sure that Dean Ambrose has been using this whole deranged unhinged gimmick before the dark knight came out. May be Heath Ledger saw a youtube clip of Jon Moxley and decided to borrow some stuff. I guess we'll never know...