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Old 12-01-2012, 11:50 AM   #1271 (permalink)
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Ambrose's 'Joker' gimmick would tie him to the midcard. What I liked about him in the Raw promo wasn't the 'unhinged' part. In fact I thought it was the total opposite. He came across as the guy who isn't serious. He's along for the ride. He looks the most 'human' of the group. His lack of serious attitude to The Shield's 'message' makes me think he'll get kicked out eventually and continue as a singles competitor. Being a little unhinged is okay, but he can't overdo it like he did developmental (as cool as it was).

The Main Event gimmicks are the 'human' gimmicks. The gimmicky stuff is good, but it's very rare you get a consistent run at the top. Only Taker has managed that. The rest: SCSA, Rock, Hogan, Cena, Orton, Punk, JBL etc have all been realistic characters rather than gimmicks.

Ambrose will do well, but I think he'll be the guy that easily travels up and down the card, much like Bryan does currently, or how Angle, Eddie and Jericho used to.
Are you nuts man? That gimmick would do anything but tie him to the midcard. It's a mainevent gimmick that would separate him from everyone else. When Undertaker debuted don't you think his gimmick would have tied him to the midcard? How about HBK's sexy boy gimmick? The Rock had a comedy gimmick where he made faces and goofy jokes to insult his opponents. When looking at those it's obvious that the joker gimmick is far more superior and main event level.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:58 AM   #1272 (permalink)
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The way WWE is handling talent the calibur of Barrett and Sandow, like they're chickens with their heads cut off, faith isn't exactly something you can afford to give the WWE. I know your argument is based on hype, the idea that somehow because he's acquired a small fanbase on his own, without WWE, like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan did, that it's an automatic precursor to success in WWE, it doesn't really matter, anything can happen. He wouldn't be the first guy everybody thought was a guaranteed success and then they dropped the ball. WWE is brilliant when it comes to fucking people over.
I understand where Col. Angus is coming from, but I agree with you. With Punk, they screwed him over multiple times and he came close to leaving the company just a year ago. And Bryan was actually released following the tie incident with Justin Roberts. What if Bryan didn't return? That would have been a huge disaster. Kharma had some hype and look how that turned out. That's kind of where the skepticism lies.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:02 PM   #1273 (permalink)
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When looking at those it's obvious that the joker gimmick is far more superior and main event level.
It's not. Oh and Rock didn't make faces. When did you start watching wrestling?
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What they should do is have him slowly start going out of control and at the same time have Rollins start questioning their ways. It'd be a great way for them to have a slow building tension between Dean's psychotic nature and Seth's desire for doing what's honorable.

Not sure how Reigns would fit into this though.
I think Ambrose needs to split first (of his own accord). Build up his instability and have him just walk away from the group. Then later on have Reigns turn against Rollins, to make the face turn for Rollins.
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It's not. Oh and Rock didn't make faces. When did you start watching wrestling?
Early 90s and oh he didn't did he?



The Joker gimmick is far more serious than the ones I mentioned and I don't know how you could argue it. Hell The Joker was the main event heel in Batman. It's not like we're talking about a Penguin gimmick, this is a freakin Joker gimmick from the "Killing Joke" done well in a serious manner.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:11 PM   #1276 (permalink)
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I hope this means Team Hell No will be feuding with them now, so at least we won't be seeing Ruback destroy them on his own.
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Ok, he did. (Very funny too)

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I acutally lol'd. Not because he wasn't the biggest bad guy in Batman, but because you actually typed that shit out.

Has this gimmick proven it's a main event level or 'is far more superior' to the other gimmicks that have proven themselves and drew huge in the business? Nah it hasn't. But you keep on hyping.
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Rollins, I see him either as the WWE Champ in the future or the intercontinental champ. I don't know why.

Ambrose, I see him to be bigger than the title.

Reigns, WHC Champ.
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That interview on RAW was dope as fuck. Ambrose shined.
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