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post #31 of 2824 (permalink) Old 11-19-2012, 12:43 AM
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After seeing that clip of how SS ended I'd say it looks more likely that Punk is involved with Ambrose and Co. since they stuck around until after he pinned Cena. I doubt we'll get a clear answer tomorrow but hopefully the groundwork for it is laid and Dean gets to talk.

As for the other aspects of the show...

-Hopefully Ziggler gets to cut a nice, long promo about being the sole survivor. Tonight seems like the start of his WHC push so he's got to start doing more talking and not be thrown into the AJ/Vickie mess.

-I'm sure we'll get more Show/Sheamus continuation and just thinking about it makes me tired. Sheamus has been in WHC title matches since Mania so it's time for him to drop down the card a bit but unfortunately we're in for at least one more match.

-The tag title scene should be a little different tomorrow assuming that Rhodes will miss some time. Possibly the beginning of a Sandow/Otuna pairing?

-Judging by the SS results Del Rio was made to look pretty strong. I wonder if he's finally done with Orton or if they're going to drag that snoozefest of a feud on for another month.
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Yes, but you're excited every week.


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I have the chance to see CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Tyler Black, Claudio Castagnoli, & Jon Moxley all on RAW tomorrow. How did things get so awesome in the span of a day?


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I obviously didn't see the ppv, and don't know how the whole vibe felt throughout the night.
But with the results I've read, it seems like this ppv could go down in history as the turning point, and the dawn of a new era.
IF they follow through and don't drop the ball like usual.
Some people don't want to put all the blame on Linda's Senate race,
but maybe it was one of the most intricate parts to what we've gotten lately.
Especially what we've gotten for the past (maybe) 2 months when we were getting closer to the race.
I know Mattel still plays a big role, but maybe now we can actually get some edge and passion.
The senate race played a role... whether they admit it or not. I mean, it isn't really a coincidence that the violence tuned down for a while then suddenly, only weeks after her loss, Sheamus goes off on Show, Orton teases the punt (something that was "banned" wasn't it?) and then some edgier tones. While they won't go AE levels with Mattel (or at least not likely to), it's clear it was massively toned down to limit "controversy" for the senate race.

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C'mon, folks. Let's please not spoil this quality goodness with kneejerk hair-trigger talk of the "dawning of a new era" again.

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C'mon, folks. Let's please not spoil this quality goodness with kneejerk hair-trigger talk of the "dawning of a new era" again.
I was simply just responding to the post that WWE.com had about the montreal screwjob (which ultimately dawned in the Attitude Era)
No, I'm not a crazy one who thinks there needs to be a new AE or that we're about to enter one.
We're not in that time, and I don't want to go back to that time. I want it to be 2013 and fresh.
And with that I want an edgier product, not katie vick edgy but passionate type of edgy where people are pissed and have a REASON to be and want to fight instead of "you have belt I want" or "You bad, I good, let's fight".
I want true distinct characters, and I want things to have meaning again
(yes, even in a fictional world, just like a movie) so I can care about it!
I do believe however that with the start of the new year, the new debuts, Linda losing, the results of SS, and everything, that we are at a turning point. A very important turning point for WWE.

"....or...you can just call me the soon to be crowned KING of this company!
DEAN AMBROSE is taking over the world! As of right now forget what you think you know about this industry,
because Dean Ambrose is about to blow the DOORS. OFF. EVERYTHING! SO WELCOME TO THE FUTURE!!!!"


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C'mon, folks. Let's please not spoil this quality goodness with kneejerk hair-trigger talk of the "dawning of a new era" again.
Moxley is gonna beat Cena clean tomorrow and gonna eventually be the new face of the company.

Ok, I'm being facetious, but a post of that nature might come up thanks to the marking level right now. I'm not gonna be that delusional. I'll enjoy seeing Black & Moxley on the program no matter what roles they play. It's just fun to know wrestlers I really enjoy are gonna get their time on a bigger stage like Monday Night RAW.

Watch as the 3 new guys might not even show up or till the very last moment of RAW. That could make this place explode with a negative reaction.

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Well, you could be right and you've certainly supported your case with sterling efficacy.

I was predicting Ambrose debuting at or the night after Survivor Series for a long time simply because of the timing of the election and all that and it looks like I may very well have been onto something. With Linda losing, the ratings kind of stagnant-to-downright bad and the product being very weak recently, it seems like someone somewhere wants to fix things, and we've seen signs of it with the Miz face turn, the tease of Orton turning heel, I suppose you could even say Big Show taking the WHC from Sheamus because it logically sets up a new potential megastar babyface to dethrone Big Show (realistically at WM29, and the likeliest candidate obviously being Ryback), and now the events of Survivor Series as the proverbial icing on the cake.

So, perhaps there is something to it and I hope that there is.

Without being wild-eyed or slavish toward CM Punk and the whole promise of change he quite vociferously allowed himself to represent nearly a year and a half ago, it's not altogether absurd to consider that the "process," as it were, would take a lengthy, long and windy road and for a long time be a case of "one step forward, two steps back" until enough time had passed and a sufficient number of complications were removed to make things genuinely, unmistakably "better" for the product at large.

But, I'll remain cautious and sober regardless, overall... Granted, my curiosity and excitement has been piqued by these very recent events and for the first time since the October 15th Raw the week after I attended the Sacramento, CA Raw on October 8th, I'm actually looking forward to Raw again.

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