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Old 11-15-2012, 03:37 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:38 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Pfff. In WWE all the heels are Jeices and Zarbons. Raditzs, at best.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:20 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Vegeta, the ultimate tweener.

Gohan oversold everything.

Piccolo was the stiffest fighter.

And The Cell Games was one massive Lumberjack match.



Dat promo.
I dunno, once he went SSJ2 he didn't sell for shit.
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The main character is a man called Goku, he's like the Anime version of John Cena, always rising above the odds and beating foes
I did read your whole post, but this part I think is the key flaw in the comparison and argument.

Cena USED to be that guy. It's Punk now. if you don't think Punk has been "always rising above the odds and beating foes", look at the last year of PPV matches. It's littered with stipulation matches that were supposedly not in his favor. Yet he won anyway. Here's a list of his match types since winning the title:

3 triple threat matches (all 3 times with guys who were supposedly trying to team up to beat him (Del Rio and Miz, then Team Hell No). Got handcuffed to the ropes in one match and still won. The next PPV is another triple threat match.

1 Chicago Street Fight match with a legend (Jericho)

2 special guest ref matches, both times with the ref supposedly out to get him (Laurinitis for one, and DB's girlfriend in another), but of course he wins anyway, and even gets booked as basically stealing the other wrestler's girlfriend in the process.

1 Elimination Chamber match, beating 5 other guys and looking like Superman's even stronger father.

1 Hell in a Cell match with the hardest pushed badass on the show right now.

3 regular matches, but two were against "legends" (Jericho and Cena).


If that isn't beating the odds, what is? Punk is pretty much the Goku of WWE now.
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Krillin put so many people over and sold so well.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:38 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Id say Randy Orton would be a way more accurate and, if a similar storyline came to fruition, entertaining stand in for vegeta
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Krillin put so many people over and sold so well.
The entire cast did that except for Goku
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Krillin put so many people over and sold so well.
Yes I thought Zack Ryder was gonna become Cena's krillin, but whatever this thread made me remember one of Mr. Satan (Hercule) disciples the dude looked like Vader.
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I did read your whole post, but this part I think is the key flaw in the comparison and argument.

Cena USED to be that guy. It's Punk now. if you don't think Punk has been "always rising above the odds and beating foes", look at the last year of PPV matches. It's littered with stipulation matches that were supposedly not in his favor. Yet he won anyway. Here's a list of his match types since winning the title:

3 triple threat matches (all 3 times with guys who were supposedly trying to team up to beat him (Del Rio and Miz, then Team Hell No). Got handcuffed to the ropes in one match and still won. The next PPV is another triple threat match.

1 Chicago Street Fight match with a legend (Jericho)

2 special guest ref matches, both times with the ref supposedly out to get him (Laurinitis for one, and DB's girlfriend in another), but of course he wins anyway, and even gets booked as basically stealing the other wrestler's girlfriend in the process.

1 Elimination Chamber match, beating 5 other guys and looking like Superman's even stronger father.

1 Hell in a Cell match with the hardest pushed badass on the show right now.

3 regular matches, but two were against "legends" (Jericho and Cena).


If that isn't beating the odds, what is? Punk is pretty much the Goku of WWE now.
I appreciate the amount of thought you put into your argument and I agree with you a lot that Cena is no longer the guy who beats the odds, the difference is that Cena is the face in this relationship between him and CM punk, that's why I compare him to goku bcoz he stands for being a hero etc... Where as punk on the other hand is more like vegeta, wanting respect and to be treated like the best and always playing second fiddle.

Cm punk beat them people yet in keyfabe he is still second, even with his wins its evident he isn't the 'main character', although the comparisons differ slightly theres space for cm punk to complete his character development and enter a vageta like role, being the second mose popular, one who's always striving for power and recognition, talking about his pride and destiny as the best in the world and even in taking a loss he can do it in an epic way then show him flipping out and questioning his strength.

It can be done, although not exactly how it was in dbz but somewhere on that level...its a character people can relate to, striving to.be the best against people who.may be more talented than you ultimately making.you.push yourself to prove yourself.

Sorry for the bad grammar I'm typing on phone.

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