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post #591 of 833 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 04:17 PM
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It was an awesome promo. I'm glad they did it. I'm sure King agreed to it. More please.

Will mark for Father Ted references.

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I find it ironic that some of you complaining are the first to verbally abuse or wish death on someone in rants
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When plotting something like professional wrestling, conflict is mandatory. I'm really having a hard time with the comments from detractors here. If you don't want your sensibilities ruffled, why on earth would you watch wrasslin'?


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I voted that it was over the line, but I also think it was pretty good. It was offensive as shit but when has wrestling ever entirely avoided being distasteful or offensive? That being said, it worked. It got us talking, it got people watching and it felt fresh. My only qualm is that they turned what I assume is the actual footage of the King dying into a promo, which feels all sorts of wrong.
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post #596 of 833 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 04:25 PM
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I have been lurking on here for a while and this topic I felt the need to chime in on.

I disagree with this promo on a number of levels.

Some of my favorite shows feature dark humor or tragedy like Its Always Sunny, The League, GoT, South Park, or the Wire, so I am not someone who is overly sensitive to jokes about death/rape/holocaust or whatever.

Having said that, I found the promo distasteful in so much as the Kings return should have just been a heartfelt moment because we had all watched this man nearly die on live television. To turn it into an angle just cheapens real emotion like the crowd and Coles relief that he was alive and joy at his return.

Secondly, the promo largely failed in its goal, which was to make Punk more reviled than Cena. The main event of the night proves this, as the crowd was still pro-Punk and anti-Cena despite Punk threatening to beat King to death again.

To me, the entire situation is a microcosm of what is wrong with Punks heel turn and the WWE as a whole.

It used to be that the fans decided who was face and who was heel. When fans began cheering SCSA over Bret Hart they promptly turned him face and he was wildly successful. When the supposed fan favorite Blue-chipper was being serenaded with chants wishing for his death he was turned heel and became the Rock.

Nowadays, Cena is roundly booed by at least half of the audience who perceives him as a Mary Sue and a smug phony, while Punk is cheered for being entertaining and authentic. Having Cena just smile at the boos and continue to act like a goody two shoes face makes us resent him even more.

PG is not an excuse for shoddy storytelling, and guys can be booked as effective heels in this era, SES Punk, Mark Henry, Undashing Cody Rhodes, and Damien Sandow were all hated because of their character traits and actions.

In comparison, the only avenue that this current incarnation of Punk can turn to to get booed is cheap heat. Up until Hell in a Cell he was a fighting champion, he was still roundly cheered through Night of Champions, and his arguments, that he deserved respect and main event billing, while Cena did not deserve a title shot after failing, were largely correct.

To me, Punks character was largely an audience surrogate saying what was wrong with the WWE, and deserves to be cheered, with much of the audience agreeing.

The WWE has decided to shit all over who the fans decided to cheer for, casuals and smarks, in favor of the status quo, and then have to resort to the cheap heat. However, most people cheering for Punk see this as the transparent bullshit that it is, trying to force the fans to boo who they want them to and not who they want to. The result is largely the same as the 18 seconds bullshit from Wrestlemania; fan refusal to act how they want us to and resentment of the company guy.

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WWE...where faces and heels shows up all together hand in hand against breast cancer and jokes about people diyng of heart attacks the week after.

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WWE...where faces and heels shows up all together hand in hand against breast cancer and jokes about people diyng of heart attacks the week after.
Lol the WWE can be bipolar at times.

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Yeah but he's being horrible to fictional situations. They had Punk making fun of a real heart attack not one that was scripted.

Yes, it was real. But that should only concern the one that had that heart attack (try saying that out loud!), Lawler. Since he was ok with it I don't see the problem.

If you want another example, there's Top Gear. It's a motoring show in the BBC, and it's one of the biggest TV shows in the world. Well, one of his presenters, Richard Hammond, suffered a terrible accident in a jet-propelled car that nearly killed him. Jet when he was back on hte program discussing the incident, the other two co-host hilariously mocked him about the accident. I'm sure some people here would be outraged by that, since "lots of people die in car accidents" and "car accidents aren't funny".

People seem to bring up 2 points. It was real and it was bad taste. 1st, yes, It was real, but as I said before if Jerry is ok with it there's no problem there. And it was bad taste, yes, but that's the point of 2 evil fucks mocking his rival for his bad luck.

BTW, fuck Punk for defending the firing of Abraham Washington. Rape jokes are OK and can be funny. And I didn't enjoy the segment that much, the idea wasn't that entertaining or original, and only Heyman and Punk overdoing it and some on-liners made it funny.
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WWE...where faces and heels shows up all together hand in hand against breast cancer and jokes about people diyng of heart attacks the week after.
Is this something ppl just discovered. It wasnt long ago when Cena and Lawler who are both faces made fat joke after fat joke to Vickie and Cena using all of his gay jokes. While they promoted B A Star


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