View Poll Results: Did WWE cross the line with Jerry Lawler tonight?
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11-12-2012, 11:42 PM
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#201 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
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Originally Posted by Headliner
So in other words it should be expected and acceptable to see this in wrestling?
It really is the wrong kind of heat. That's the problem. WWE's mindset for decades has always been that any attention is good attention whether it's good or bad. That's just not true.
It's fine that Lawler is ok with it, but that shouldn't mean everyone become sheep and throw out their own personal opinions on something.
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Any heat is pretty much good heat accept the change the channel heat of course.
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11-12-2012, 11:43 PM
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#202 (permalink)
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
Ah well, safe to say Punk and Heyman successfully rustled a lot of jimmies! Oh and that, 'think about the casual fan point of view'. I can assure you the entire point of the Pg era is to pedicure the casual fan. What do long term hardcore fans get? A promo once in a while which everyone bitches about anyway...
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11-12-2012, 11:43 PM
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#203 (permalink)
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Playing with fire!
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
The segment appealed to my black sense of humour. Wrestling has always been a lightning rod for controversy in order to create some type of reaction which gets harder and harder as fans become better informed and more jaded. If it had played out like a real heart attack but turned out to be a work (similar to the Fritz Von Erich incident) I could see people being genuinely upset, but this was obvious mocking from the get go.
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11-12-2012, 11:43 PM
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#204 (permalink)
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★ BreaK the Sky ★
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
The thing is, like Headliner said, I'm pretty sure that WWE's mailbox will be filled with complaints on how low and bad-taste that segment was. And it was.
I'm almost certain that a vast majority of people disliked it, and some might quite probably stop watching because of it.
It's just something you don't do. If it was a staged heart attack, sure, it would be awkward, but still passable. But it was a real one.
Karma can be a huge bitch sometimes.
I'm sure there's plenty of people (including myself) who have went trough stuff like this with a family member or friend, and some of them might not have been as lucky as Lawler was.
I know it's a old 'comeback', but I assure you that if something like this happened to you, or anyone you care about, your opinion would be entirely different.
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Last edited by NoyK : 11-12-2012 at 11:46 PM.
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11-12-2012, 11:45 PM
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#205 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
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Originally Posted by Headliner
So in other words it should be expected and acceptable to see this in wrestling?
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Sure. I didn't mind it, but you're clearly furious about it. That's how opinions work.
Myself or anybody else probably won't ever change your mind about it, and I don't want to.
It happened. Might as well deal or let it go bruh.
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11-12-2012, 11:52 PM
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#206 (permalink)
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
About time for some real heat. I remember days when people wanted to kill Sgt. Slaughter for defecting. This promo did it's job, in a time when everything is all over the internet, this got people legit pissed and it's refreshing to see that again.
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11-12-2012, 11:54 PM
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#207 (permalink)
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Warrior of Sunlight
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Boston, Massachusetts
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
Ive never seen this forum like this. Where there are rants every day attacking someone or even ppl saying the most ruthless things about Lawler before what happened to him, now after one scripted segment ur either a typical wrestling fan or pussy. Are ppl looking into to much. Punk,Foley and Lawler all played their parts well and the segment was good. Of course ppl in the crowd and home will complain but its entertainment. Like many have said Lawler was even making fun of himself, so im sure the promo didnt bother him.
I never wanted Punk coming out seeing how I felt it was Lawlers time and he got emotional but after everything was done I felt they did a good job. Easily the most tasteless thing was the video of the whole situation that night Lawler had the heart attack. Im glad I missed that but would have been upset seeing tonights promo that has everyone talking. This isnt the first time real life was made into a storyline and I doubt it'll be the last.
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11-12-2012, 11:54 PM
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#208 (permalink)
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★ BreaK the Sky ★
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
I hope they keep Punk away from being close crowds in the near future for obvious reasons.
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11-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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#209 (permalink)
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Lacing SCOTT STEINER's boots
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
I suppose this question hasn't been asked yet and I'm wondering what everyone thinks but how does that segment sell Survivor Series?
Whether you liked it or not did it do its job of making you want to plop down $50 to see the show Sunday?
I personally say no. To be honest the heat Punk built up was wasted on a meaningless job. Does WWE not know how to draw and retain heat anymore?
Dolph gains heat but gets slapped down by a broad and punched out by Cena AND his team lost the tag match.
There are only 4 matches scheduled, with all the time this segment took it did nothing for Survivor Series....so why not wait to have this next week? Let Jerry have his day back in peace namsayin?
And if it doesn't sell PPVs what really was the point? Punk isn't wrestling Foley or Lawler Sunday and they were the main opposition in the segment.
So not only was it in bad taste, it made no sense to even have it take place. My opinion on it hasn't changed though, still funny.
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11-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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#210 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Re: Punk & Heyman mocking King's heart attack
That'll be karma for Punk.
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