Well to be fair, if someone got raped and wanted to make fun of that situation there are some that wouldn't care if he/she was okay with it. Sometimes it goes beyond that with fans. And I can see that.
I HIGHLY doubt a rape victim would want to make fun of that situation, that's not the same as a heart attack. If that person gets over it, though, I'm certainly not gonna judge them for making fun of it. It's better you move on from a bad experience than don't.
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What's your opinion on Heymans fake heart attack? Do you think that was needed? I sure as fuck don't, it looked like he was making fun of all heart attack victims there. That's where people think it went "over the line".
You could see it in the RAW discussion thread, when Punk first came out people were laughing, when Punk said "I'll beat you to death", still nothing. It only became "what the fuck" when that happened.
I don't think it was NEEDED but it didn't upset me. I never got the impression he was mocking all heart attack victims either, just Lawler, but whatever.
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I thought it was a good segment. Heels are supposed to be jerks, and these guys were total dicks there. Heyman faking the heart attack had me laughing a little but saying 'this is really really bad' at the same time. They're mockery of Lawler was evil. I liked it.
Had Jerry died or had such a serious heart attack that he never returned, I highly doubt they ever would have brought it up, maybe as a reference, but nothing like this. If you notice the week before he had the heart attack Punk beat him in that cage match. The next week, Punk didn't even mention Lawler's name or what happened. They could very easily have done it and TBH I was expecting it, but they didn't. They only did it now. Now that he is back and somewhat healthy, and I would say, after he had approved it.
Plus this is wrestling we're talking about. I highly doubt Lawler would have had a problem with this at all. Wrestlers tend to be pretty light hearted about these things.
Lawler used to make fun of Jake Roberts' alcoholism. It's not quite as serious as a heart attack but still not something to make fun of. He did it because he was a heel, he was probably good friends with Roberts. Same as I believe that Punk and Lawler and Foley and Cena all get along.
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No, it's just that he's a grown man who knows what he is signing up for.
Also, it's just a TV show.
So in other words it should be expected and acceptable to see this in wrestling?
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Oh, cool. About the incident. I think it was a good way for Punk to get heat from the smark crowd. Think about it, why else would they do something so low? It served its purpose.
It really is the wrong kind of heat. That's the problem. WWE's mindset for decades has always been that any attention is good attention whether it's good or bad. That's just not true.
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Ok, so basically you're saying it's wrong no matter what, and FUCK what Lawler thinks himself, right? His opinion, the victim, doesn't matter here. If he's perfectly fine to make a storyline out of his own situation and it doesn't bother him, and he's moved past it, NO GOD DAMN IT IT'S STILL WRONG BECAUSE YOU NEVER PULL THAT KIND OF SHIT!
What kind of sense does that make?
It's fine that Lawler is ok with it, but that shouldn't mean everyone become sheep and throw out their own personal opinions on something.
It failed, he was still getting cheered by the smarks during and after. When he first came out, people were bowing in the crowd . I could barely hear the boos, and he still got cheered over Cena in the ME. He also got little reaction when he came out in the ME (Foley got none)
They will digest it later and realize what punk did was disgusting. I can guarantee you this, when the WWE goes to King home town in Memphis, he will get booed out of the building lol.
If there was a line, I suppose they crossed it since it's become so controversial, which was the main goal anyway. Everyone involved had to know it would rustle a portion of the audience's feathers. I'm not bent out of shape over it myself, but it's not hard to see why some people would think otherwise. In the end, Punk is at least trying to make it real hard for his biggest marks to defend him. Even I am finding it hard to keep backing him, but when the other choices are Cena and Ryback, it's going to be hard for me to not keep cheering for him no matter how cowardly and whiny he becomes.
I'm just waiting patiently for the day the build for Punk vs. Rock can start.
That's where people got offended, though. When Punk performed "CPR", it reminded some of when a close friend/family member got CPR, except they didn't make it. I'm not really upset by this anymore, but Vince being a hypocrite get's to me. One segment: making fun of a heart attack, next: "Wounded Warriors". One segment: AJ calling Vickie fat, next: Be a Star, etc etc. I know it's nothing new, but still.
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You're fucken damn right, you've rustled my jimmies & I assume everyone else's!!! I tell you what, I'll pay your airfare over to Melbourne, it will only be a one way ticket though, because I will KILL you, you child molesting fuckwit!!!
I HIGHLY doubt a rape victim would want to make fun of that situation, that's not the same as a heart attack. If that person gets over it, though, I'm certainly not gonna judge them for making fun of it. It's better you move on from a bad experience than don't.
Judge them or not you can still feel upset about it and think it crossed a line no matter who was okay with it. So I see were those that are upset with this are coming from. It's a big deal to alot of people and I'm fine with that. Personally I think WWE crossed a line with the recap of the actual heart attack and I turned the channel. I'm not going to write WWE a letter about it though. lol
As far as the Punk stuff went, I don't mind that so much.
That recap was worse than anything in this segment besides the fake heart attack, maybe worse. They even put fucking dramatic music in with it.
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You're fucken damn right, you've rustled my jimmies & I assume everyone else's!!! I tell you what, I'll pay your airfare over to Melbourne, it will only be a one way ticket though, because I will KILL you, you child molesting fuckwit!!!
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. I could barely hear the boos, and he still got cheered over Cena in the ME. He also got little reaction when he came out in the ME (Foley got none)
