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Old 11-12-2012, 10:37 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Default Punk mocked Lawler's heart attack. He said he'd "beat Lawler to death"

Tonight, Punk and Heyman did the most heelish thing I've seen in a long long time.
And Punk still got cheered.
What in the actual fuck?
I never thought I'd say this about CM Punk, but they need to pull the plug on his heel character. It's not working. The older fans still cheer for him, and the kids don't really care about him.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #142 (permalink)
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@CP, not to justify that, but did Cole pretend to have Alzheimer's? IIRC, that was one of the factors of how she died, that would have been the equivalent of when Heyman faked a heart attack.
The segment was pretty outrageously offensive before Heyman faking a heart attack, but that is true, this was a bit worse than that. Both were still awful, though.

I just don't really care that much when the targeted person signs off on it. If WWE suffers blowback from the media and/or sponsors then they deserve it.

For people saying "You want the Attitude Era back but complain about this...", this is more like the BAD from the Attitude Era, not the good. So that argument is invalid.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:40 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Tonight, Punk and Heyman did the most heelish thing I've seen in a long long time.
And Punk still got cheered.
What in the actual fuck?
I never thought I'd say this about CM Punk, but they need to pull the plug on his heel character. It's not working. The older fans still cheer for him, and the kids don't really care about him.
Nah. Because now I think he's closer to his real life personality rather than try and force it as a face. He is an asshole for real. I think this is more natural for him in this role, at least as far as talking goes.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:41 PM   #144 (permalink)
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How is it? Do you think Punk and Heyman really hate Lawler, and were mocking him IRL? No, they almost certainly wished him well like everyone else. They were playing a character and trying to offend you, and from the looks of it they have done a good job. And now it follows that you want to see them get beat up and so will cheer for their opponents. That's how wrestling works. This is no different to any other segment, the only difference is it has got to you and make you into a mark.
TV shows with gunfire is not a direct mocking of something. It's simply an action scene. The Paul E/Punk segment was a direct mockery of a serious situation.
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It doesn't make sense because it blows up in your face. You're comparing two different situations (recovered King vs. dead King) and then complain when someone else does the same.

You've had no argument other than your personal moral tastes.

You then claimed there is no trashy TV anymore. We pointed out there is, and it's still successful. People like trash TV, look at Judge Judy.

So.. You are now back to your personal moral judgement, which by the looks of the poll is in the minority.
No, what I'm saying is, if it's not acceptable to make fun of death, then how is it acceptable to make fun of near death? That shit traumatizes people. There's people that are never the same after near death experiences.

I never said there wasn't trash TV anymore. I said the shift in society's focus has changed.

I swear Vince McMahon could literally shit in somebody's mouth while some random diva is playing with his balls at the same time and you people will call it great TV.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:43 PM   #145 (permalink)
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It's funny how people are using this whole "no heat" rhetoric as a way to discredit Punk and the segment itself when we all know damn well how hit or miss WWE live crowds have been for the last few years.

You either get a hot crowd or they outright suck. Sometimes you get a middle ground.

It was a smarky/mixed crowd who was cheering him during the main event for God's sake. They wanted to cheer for him. He got heat with the people who mattered. When you hear the high pitched boos from women and children, you've hit your target audience.

These segments aren't meant to be the end all be all of what a character represents. Just because the audience isn't throwing popcorn and soda into the ring like it's '99 doesn't mean the segment won't get Punk more and more heat moving forward. The next live event, future Raws etc. they'll remember how this dickhead of a wrestler Punk picked on a defenseless Jerry Lawler who just almost died of a heart attack and he'll continue to get booed to hell.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:44 PM   #146 (permalink)
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TV shows with gunfire is not a direct mocking of something. It's simply an action scene. The Paul E/Punk segment was a direct mockery of a serious situation.
It's not a 'serious situation'. King is ok. He was back on commentary and even played a part in the segment. If he was still in intensive care and fighting for his life, then you might have a point.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:44 PM   #147 (permalink)
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This is definitely a candidate in regards to threads which should be moved to rants. Fucking hell, the stupidity in here is unreal
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:45 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Punk and Heyman are outstanding at their jobs, and their jobs are to be heels. Although I did feel it was distasteful I enjoyed every second of it... I'm going to hell for laughing but this is what I want, something edgy to happen and someone to get their 'feelings' hurt because that's what the WWE is lacking at the minute. Best promo of the night, good work Punk.
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Who cares? They don't cater to the IWC, they were banking on Punk getting massive boos from the crowd, and he didn't.

Im pretty sure he was getting booed.
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I thought it was WAY worse when Vince mocked JR for his Bells Palsy. That was mocking just for Vinces pleasure.

This was not to mock Lawler. This was something they had planned out ahead and Lawler guranteed was fine with it, probably pitched ideas on what to say.
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