[Undertaker]

Originally Posted by donlesnar

samoa joe >>>>>>>>>>>> Ryback

I don't think anybody is denying that.

[Rickey]

I wasn't offended by the Punk/King/Heyman segment but I don't know, the whole time I was just like "Is this actually happening? They're really going in this direction? STOOP THAT LOW." I just couldn't get into it, kinda took me out of the wrestling mood. Like man, why am I watching this right now? Am I actually a wrestling fan? IS THIS REAL LIFE? Well maybe not to that extent but it all just felt so...unnecessary. Especially Heyman mocking King's heart attack and before that them playing gasping/breathing sounds in the video package. What the chuck was that all about? Did we need to hear him gasping for air?

If the WWE doesn't 'win' 'Worst Promotional Tactic of the Year' for this then the voting is rigged.

[RyanPelley]

Well, if that's what Nash was getting at, he's right. "KEVIN NASH" was never WWF Champion, but Punk didn't say that "NASH" was. So I have no clue what the fuck Nash is talking about.

[Stad]

Originally Posted by truk83

Sounds like another awful Raw.

Nope, was good IMO.

[Mr. Ziggles]

Originally Posted by NoyK

Holy crap, Survivor Series is already this Sunday? Damn, time flies.

Only 3 weeks from HIAC. It should feel quick.

[donlesnar]

Originally Posted by stadw0n306

Nope, was good IMO.

[Coffey]

Originally Posted by stadw0n306

Nope, was good IMO.

I liked it too & I pretty much hate everything. Although admittedly I missed the first forty minutes of the show due to terrible traffic & getting home late.

[Kabraxal]

Originally Posted by Walk-In

My problem with the entire ending segment seemed to be that the entire thing was set-up solely so WWE could put a picture to plaster on the frontpage of WWE.Com

Actually, that's kind of my whole problem with the whole company. It's not a wrestling company, it's one big long marketing campaign. It's not about the matches, it's about the camera angles & the shilling of shit to seem relevant. Make sure you get the Wrestlemania logo in this shot, make sure you mention Twitter in this segment, get a view of the new merchandise here, a plant doing this there, a Titantron showing that there. Nothing about the show feels organic at all. It's one big ad, one big product placement.

I kinda just wanna see guys fuckin' wrestle.

I think that's the problem with almost everything right now... they forget it just isn't about the money, but about the art behind it as well. So many gaming and movie franchises have betrayed what they were for the quick buck just like many wrestling companies forget that they have to put out a good wrestling product first and then worry about the merchandise and promoting of the product.

It's been a really sad year all around though.. so my cynicism might be clouding my judgement by watching several franchises kill themselves by selling themselves out artistically.

And yes, wrestling is actually an art form in many respects. And right now, the WWE is betraying the most basic of tenets of that art form in how they book and promote and shill the most inane of shit.

[Asenath]

The AJ/Vickie/Dolph/John fuckery was amusing. The Punk heart attack segment was terrible. The 8 man tag was excellent. Brad Maddox got squashed, but he sure was pretty. Some dudes wrestled while Antonio Cesaro talked, and that was good. CM Punk and John Cena are magic when they wrestle, so obvs. that was fun. And Ryback showed up, and nobody had the heart to tell him his presence was neither desired nor required.

[Kaban]

Tonight's RAW fucking sucked.

The booking was just plain horrible. I mean... people were anticipating the Brad Maddoxx match with Ryback all week... and all those idiots at WWE creative could come up with was another squash match. Maddoxx didn't even hit him once. He was basically a punching bag the entire match...like we're supposed to believe that's how someone would act whose wanted to get to the WWE their whole life. In short, I was expecting alot more out of the match, some sort of surprise ending, some interference.... SOMETHING. Why the fuck would they show Heyman talking to Maddoxx before the commercial if nothing came out of it? Completely disappointed.

Not even gonna mention the shit they pulled with Jerry's return. For fuck's sake, have some goddamn respect for the man. Not funny at all.