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Old 11-05-2012, 10:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Think its sad. I just saw a main event where they kept Ryback out the whole match to hide his weaknesses. Ryback was force pushed for months while DB wasnt. crazy thing is DB is over as hell, I would say Daniel got the biggest pop tonight. Daniel is better on the mic and in the ring, is his size why he cant get superpushed like Ryback.

Hoping Team Hell No lose the titles and DB accepts the yes chants and becomes one of the biggest faces in wrestling.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Surviving as a midcard comedy act playing the weak link in a go-nowhere comedy tag team wrestling 2-5 minute singles matches where he loses while his partner wins is not even using 5% of his actual ability.
Except he is more over now then when he had the WHC and some would agure gets a better exspouser then the currenht WHC and last one combined


win loss? not so great. air time? he is doing Cena proud.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Good, then job out Ryback to Big Show in 3 minutes clean because he's over and wins and losses don't matter.
Does anyone remember Skip Sheffield? He lost matches but that doesn't matter. In the long run wins & losses don't matter. Before the infamous pipebomb Punk was losing a lot of matches was well. Sheamus once jobbed to Santino but look at him now. Hell he lost to Goldust before even joining the main roster. What about current champ Big Show? Lost many ppv matches to Cena, do people consider that today? Nope.

Hell just today, Punk lost clean to Ryback, but will that matter once the Rock/Punk feud begins? Not a damn bit.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:26 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I felt that they had no faith in him the moment Vince mocked his size in that backstage segment back in June. Then they turned him to a joke in that Punk feud by making Punk indestructible and having AJ make a fool of him.
Punk did NOT look indestructible in that feud. You speak about him like he was superman-ing, Cena style...

The AJ shit, well I'm the last person you'll ever find defending that piece of crap storyline.

I'm no Bryan mark and I detest his current gimmick, catchphrase and direction (Team Hell No was a waste of time that peaked with Kane's explanation of his life's history), but he does deserve better than this. All that the WWE has done lately is make me change the channel when he shows up. He's getting big go-away heat from me these days.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:26 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Does anyone remember Skip Sheffield? He lost matches but that doesn't matter. In the long run wins & losses don't matter. Before the infamous pipebomb Punk was losing a lot of matches was well. Sheamus once jobbed to Santino but look at him now. Hell he lost to Goldust before even joining the main roster. What about current champ Big Show? Lost many ppv matches to Cena, do people consider that today? Nope.

Hell just today, Punk lost clean to Ryback, but will that matter once the Rock/Punk feud begins? Not a damn bit.
So why not job out the Ryback, he's over. Spread the wealth as they say. Wins and losses don`t matter. Brock should lose clean to everyone as well including the divas, it`s totally not going to to hurt his appeal or marketability. Hell, I don`t know why Shawn Michaels didn`t like doing jobs unless they were to other top guys or people who he thought were going to be top guys in a short time. Austin definitely should've lost to Michaels at Mania, maybe it would've kept Shawn happy. It's not like Austin winning meant anything. It`s not like he didn`t say the secret of pro wrestling is that "wins and losses DO matter".
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Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:30 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Oh no! He lost a match on RAW! He's being buried!

See, here's the 101. Bryan is a very, very over wrestler, and is part of a very over tag team. He also is one half of the current tag team champions, a former US Champion and World Heavyweight Champion. He's only been in the company for 3 years and he's already got a two catchphrase's he can use for the rest of his career.

Losing one match on RAW will not ruin any momentum or overness he currently has. He can be beat any week, the next time he comes out the fans will continue to chant YES! YES! YES! YES!

Just because he's not World Champion for a year doesn't mean he's being "buried."
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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:33 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Oh no! He lost a match on RAW! He's being buried!

See, here's the 101. Bryan is a very, very over wrestler, and is part of a very over tag team. He also is one half of the current tag team champions, a former US Champion and World Heavyweight Champion. He's only been in the company for 3 years and he's already got a two catchphrase's he can use for the rest of his career.

Losing one match on RAW will not ruin any momentum or overness he currently has. He can be beat any week, the next time he comes out the fans will continue to chant YES! YES! YES! YES!
He's hasn't won a singles match on Raw since he beat Kane at Summerslam.
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Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:36 PM   #38 (permalink)
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He's hasn't won a singles match on Raw since he beat Kane at Summerslam.
Really, I haven't noticed.
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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:36 PM   #39 (permalink)
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So why not job out the Ryback, he's over. Spread the wealth as they say. Wins and losses don`t matter. Brock should lose clean to everyone as well including the divas, it`s totally not going to to hurt his appeal or marketability. Hell, I don`t know why Shawn Michaels didn`t like doing jobs unless they were to other top guys or people who he thought were going to be top guys in a short time. Austin definitely should've lost to Michaels at Mania, maybe it would've kept Shawn happy. It's not like Austin winning meant anything. It`s not like he didn`t say the secret of pro wrestling is that "wins and losses DO matter".

Now you're being dumb. They're pushing Ryback as the top guy right now so of course he won't lose much. They're currently not pushing Bryan to the main event level so he can afford to lose. If the wwe decides to give him the title or have him be one of the top guys months from now, the losses he has now will not matter at all.

Did people bring up Punk losing to Orton at Mania when he won the wwe title from Cena? Nope. Hell one of the biggest PPV main events of all time, Austin/Rock at Wrestlemania 17, Austin lost to Triple H clean the PPV before that.

If wwe decides that they want to push someone, loses they had picked up before then are meaningless. If Orton wins the title a month from now, no one will remember Del Rio tapping him out, Ziggler pining him, Barrett beating him twice.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:38 PM   #40 (permalink)
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It doesn't effect him. Typical Bryan marks overreacting.
Pretty Much.
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