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You're a real gullible fool. It doesn't matter if Bryan is over or not. It's absolutely laughable to think they'd suddenly protect him if he was half as over or a tenth as over. Anyone with any perceptive sense would know he'd be jobbing to midcarders either way. Insane and lazy defense for his booking.
Bully Ray loses all the time and is still one of TNA's most over and best talents. The Rock lost all the time and it didn't affect him either. Bryan is one of the most over guys on the roster and one half of the tag team champions. I'm sure the marks won't view him in a negative light.
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Bully Ray loses all the time and is still one of TNA's most over and best talents. The Rock lost all the time and it didn't affect him either. Bryan is one of the most over guys on the roster and one half of the tag team champions. I'm sure the marks won't view him in a negative light.
The Rock didn't lose to Steve Blackman or Flash Funk clean in 2 minutes when he was coming up. The Rock didn't get outsmarted by Sunny and positioned, booked, and written to be a lesser star and a stepping stone to a woman when he was coming up. The Rock didn't go into his first Wrestlemania to be sabotaged by a booking team that liked the other guy so much more. The Rock didn't get fired from the company twice and be exiled from it the first time for the better part of a decade. And TNA is a different product with different rules, and most importantly a different booking team without that Connecticut trust-fund cunt leading Team Steph.

I do have one question for anyone who might feel that Dwayne Johnson "owes" the business. Is it just him, or is it anyone who moved on to other things? Should Luna Vachon get heat for running a towing company instead of working on RAW? Should Maven be critiqued on his Home Shopping Network bits instead of wrestling?

Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?

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Re: Vince and the Officials treatment of Bryan

I like how when he lost the crowd was completely gutted and had zero reaction for the kane and sandow match..I don't know what WWE is trying to do with Bryan but it's stupid they can have a fucking BIG star with this guy.
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Re: Vince and the Officials treatment of Bryan

Y u mad, Van? Is it because a vanilla midget is so over that he can overcome shitty booking?
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Re: Vince and the Officials treatment of Bryan

Vince never intended to push him in the first place. That's why he had him squashed in 18 secs at Mania.


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Y u mad, Van? Is it because a vanilla midget is so over that he can overcome shitty booking?
He isn't overcoming shitty booking. He's slowly withering away to purposely destructive booking. He's not as over as he used to be, because the fans are slowly catching on not to put faith in the guy, because he's just going to lose. All you have to do is contrast his booking to that of Ryback. Crowd cheers Ryback, Ryback wins. Crowd cheers louder, Ryback wins more. Crowd reacts to Bryan, Bryan loses. Crowd reacts to Bryan more, Bryan loses. Crowd realizes their actions don't matter, Bryan loses. Pavlovian conditioning is already in effect.

I do have one question for anyone who might feel that Dwayne Johnson "owes" the business. Is it just him, or is it anyone who moved on to other things? Should Luna Vachon get heat for running a towing company instead of working on RAW? Should Maven be critiqued on his Home Shopping Network bits instead of wrestling?

Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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The Rock didn't lose to Steve Blackman or Flash Funk clean in 2 minutes when he was coming up. The Rock didn't get outsmarted by Sunny and positioned, booked, and written to be a lesser star and a stepping stone to a woman when he was coming up. The Rock didn't go into his first Wrestlemania to be sabotaged by a booking team that liked the other guy so much more. The Rock didn't get fired from the company twice and be exiled from it the first time for the better part of a decade. And TNA is a different product with different rules, and most importantly a different booking team without that Connecticut trust-fund cunt leading Team Steph.
I'm watching 1998 RAW right now and when The Rock was coming up in 1998, he jobbed to Ken Shamrock on 4 consecutive major PPVS. He was handed the intercontinental title by Stone Cold because Austin didn't want it anymore and then The Rock proceeded to lose by disqualification in nearly every title defenses. Last episode I watched, he ate a clean pinfall loss to X-Pac.
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Re: Vince and the Officials treatment of Bryan

Simply because Vince doesn't see a "star" in Bryan.
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Re: Vince and the Officials treatment of Bryan

Bryan isn't as over as he used to be? What show are you watching?
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Bryan isn't as over as he used to be? What show are you watching?
I'm watching a show where for the past several weeks where the crowd reacts for a few seconds during his matches and then goes silent until he chants No where they chant Yes back at him for a couple of seconds before it dies down. Each time he does this, he gets less of a vociferous reaction during the match. They are no longer chanting it with the degree of passion with the belief that it's going to help him win matches like months ago and at different points where he's not purposely trying to get them, just following what he does for his familiar spots for a little bit before dying off.

I do have one question for anyone who might feel that Dwayne Johnson "owes" the business. Is it just him, or is it anyone who moved on to other things? Should Luna Vachon get heat for running a towing company instead of working on RAW? Should Maven be critiqued on his Home Shopping Network bits instead of wrestling?

Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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