[swagger_ROCKS]

Originally Posted by trevs909

at around 5:35 , really don't think Heyman sandbagged.

Either the difficulty of excecuting the move, or he reaches a limit after an extended period of time. This is where he doesn't compare to Cena were he doesn't wear out after a short worked match.

[Undertaker]

I don't think he gassed out. He couldn't lift Paul, but right after lifted Punk like he was nothing. It might be the move that gives him and his opponents problems. And it also didn't look like Paul sandbagged him.

[SDWarrior]

Originally Posted by swagger_ROCKS

Either the difficulty of excecuting the move, or he reaches a limit after an extended period of time. This is where he doesn't compare to Cena were he doesn't wear out after a short worked match.

He had no issue at the very end, Getting punk into the move for a second time. Again, it comes down to other person as much as it does himself.

[SDWarrior]

Originally Posted by Sparta101

I don't think he gassed out. He couldn't lift Paul, but right after lifted Punk like he was nothing. It might be the move that gives him and his opponents problems. And it also didn't look like Paul sandbagged him.

Exactly. Paul probably just can't jump into right. He flung punk over his shoulder for a second time like he was nothing.

[HEELKris]

Originally Posted by Sparta101

Are we just going to pretend that Ryback hasn't already lifted a 350 pound Tensai, and Primo/Epico who weigh over 400 pounds together?

Those morons have a brain the size of a walnut, haven't you seen their intelligent posts? ''Who cares about weights'' they will say anything to defend their bullshit, even if it has already been proven wrong

[JY57]

lol @ Punk mocking Ryback, marching while trying to do the GTS

[SDWarrior]

Originally Posted by JY57

lol @ Punk mocking Ryback, marching while trying to do the GTS

Whether you like either or both of them, the dynamic between the two of them is great. It's a blast to watch.

[Undertaker]

Good match by the way. Can't wait to see how their Hell in a Cell match turns out.

[Evil Peter]

Originally Posted by SDWarrior

He had no issue at the very end, Getting punk into the move for a second time. Again, it comes down to other person as much as it does himself.

Which is why he should get a move that suits him better. Ryback will face big opponents in longer matches in the future, and the risk is that both will get tired, which surely will increase the risk of the move not going well. If anything in your arsenal should look flawless it's your finisher. The Shellshock just doesn't seem like a smart choice for Ryback as there should be plenty of other moves that look at least as tough but are easier for him to do.

There is a difference between gym strength and "functional" strength as well though. If you face a strong amateur wrestler you can even actively resist but still be taken for a ride if he has a hold locked in.

[SDWarrior]

Originally Posted by Evil Peter

Which is why he should get a move that suits him better. Ryback will face big opponents in longer matches in the future, and the risk is that both will get tired, which surely will increase the risk of the move not going well. If anything in your arsenal should look flawless it's your finisher. The Shellshock just doesn't seem like a smart choice for Ryback as there should be plenty of other moves that look at least as tough but are easier for him to do.

There is a difference between gym strength and "functional" strength as well though. If you face a strong amateur wrestler you can even actively resist but still be taken for a ride if he has a hold locked in.

I agree. He needs a more foolproof finisher.