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JasonLives · 10-09-2012, 08:39 AM

The only downside is the 3 hours. Would have been a great 2 hour show but 3 hours is still too much, still too much nonsense to just fill out the time.
Come on Vince, just go back to 2 hours. You already have Main Event and that Saturday morning show to bring in some extra revenue.

Blommen · 10-09-2012, 08:43 AM

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In some ways it's unfair to him because you can't expect him to do the things Goldberg and Lesnar use to do. It's like asking every single power hitter to duplicate Barry Bond's, McGwire's, Sosa's numbers. They drug test now. Those days are over with.

I'm sure Ryback's done his fair share of roids but the current drug testing is going to have an impact on every single wrestler's full "potential".

We're probally going to never see another Goldberg or Lesnar.

I don't see how it is unfair. should i feel sorry for him not being as strong as he looks? c'mon man, should i also start feeling sorry Cena because he isn't allowed to swear like they did in AE?

roni10_levi · 10-09-2012, 08:51 AM

I'm really speachless. what we have seen from Punk this Raw is much, much, much worse than Ryback's "boach" of last week! Ryback, at least, looked dominance against Tensai (who is a "little bit" thoughter than Vince.M). C.M Punk looked as a total joke!
my godness- is this the kind of world champion the WWE wants us to buy??? oh hell no, dudes. I am the last to buy this crap. this is a good enought reason to make Punk lose his title, as soon as possible. and I wouldn't mind to get him off from my TV.
now, I can tell you I changed my mind: I don't want Ryback to face Punk at Wrsetlemania. Ryback deserves a much better opponent, since no one in the whall world would give punk a chance to beat him. give Ryback an opponent who can really take him over. punk's gimmick is dead and boring as hell. so I really hope The Rock or Cena to take Punk's title, and going to Wrsetlemania to an ultimate clash with Ryback. that's gonn'a be a real great victory for the Ryback

Blommen · 10-09-2012, 08:52 AM

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Can I assume you've never watched Ric Flair in his prime?

One time pop? Ryback has been gaining momentum for weeks now. He's becoming a true face. Did you hear many Goldberg chants tonight? I didn't.

I did. watch his match from last night.

The Chicken Man · 10-09-2012, 08:59 AM

Vince still has that "do it yourself" attitude at least. I thought he had lost it, but he was working his ass off on screen tonight. And overall the show was booked better than previous shows.

Osize10 · 10-09-2012, 09:00 AM

The hell no tag match was awesome. Excellent work by all men. It might be just me, but they were working Bryan pretty stiff. Watching it made me wince a few times.

Also Sheamus took a pretty nasty bump at the end of his match. I like to see more of that kind of stuff.

GreenDude88 · 10-09-2012, 09:14 AM

Overall it was a mostly enjoyable Raw, with a few very solid matches and a brilliant McMahon CM Punk segment and entertaining main event. Certainly a step up from last weeks show.

**Ageei** · 10-09-2012, 09:21 AM

It's not about the "Attitude era" or anything like that in my opinion. All they did last night was copy a formula from that time period...and it worked...again. Don't know how much more evidence Vince needs that, the reason the 90's worked, and the reason last night worked is people like to watch segments like the final one.

You don't have to go to any "attitude era" to put on a good show. You just have to have exciting segments, with drama, anxiety, and intrigue. The final 15 minutes much like the 90's had it. THAT is the answer Vince, to all your problems.

Shawn Morrison · 10-09-2012, 09:26 AM

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It's not about the "Attitude era" or anything like that in my opinion. All they did last night was copy a formula from that time period...and it worked...again. Don't know how much more evidence Vince needs that, the reason the 90's worked, and the reason last night worked is people like to watch segments like the final one.

You don't have to go to any "attitude era" to put on a good show. You just have to have exciting segments, with drama, anxiety, and intrigue. The final 15 minutes much like the 90's had it. THAT is the answer Vince, to all your problems.

agreed. Intense segments with so much going on is what makes it interesting to watch. MITB 2011 Punk vs Cena was a great match not because of the wrestling alone, but because of all the drama that was behind it, which made the whole match very entertaining to watch, it was the reason they had to put on a great match. These days the show lacks much intensity, which is the real reason 'Attitude' Era was popular. They needed to top WCW and so they decided to have much more attitude in their shows, much more extreme, which made them top WCW. Well they know how its done, they can stay in PG while also adding lots of intensity. Just because the target is kids doesn't mean they can't make it more interesting.

Taker2theMoon · 10-09-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Man

Vince still has that "do it yourself" attitude at least. I thought he had lost it, but he was working his ass off on screen tonight. And overall the show was booked better than previous shows.

I agree. A part of me thought that it would wind up like that Punk x Lawler match, but I'm glad it didn't. I was surprised to see Vince's physique too. The last time I had seen him was in footage of the Vince vs Austin segments. I knew he wasn't nearly as big (muscle-wise) as he once was, but it still caught me off guard. I'm glad it wasn't just Punk slaughtering Vince or Vince slaughtering Punk. It was a believable segment and I turned the tv off happy when it was over.

As for the rest of the show the only parts I didn't like so much was when Little Jimmy wanted to dance with Cameron and Naomi and the Mysterio/Cara match. Shaemus vs Barrett was probably my favorite Shaemus match so far. Those two work well together. The Larry King segment was kind of entertaining near the end and I enjoyed seeing Miz get water splashed in his face. The segment in the beginning when Vince challenged Punk...oh lord that was amazing. Cesaro vs Kidd was another good one. I hope that someday Kidd can be molded into something more than an entertaining jobber. I didn't pay all my attention to the Hell No vs Del Rio/Ziggler but it was refreshing to see Kane snag a win. Team Rhodes Scholars winning was pretty cool. I don't mind Ryder, but I don't like Santino so I didn't mind seeing him get jumped by the job squad. I didn't watch the divas match, but I figured Eve wouldn't lose the title so fast. And...I already talked about the main event above.

I wanted to be able to talk about it all with everyone on here last night, but the site was being wonky for me. I don't know if it was for anyone else too.