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10-08-2012, 11:42 PM
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My Name Is God (I Hate You)
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
I'm a CM Punk fan and I think Ryback sucks...but goddamn the last ten minutes of this show was awesome. Best ending since Raw 1000.
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10-08-2012, 11:43 PM
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Meltzer said I'm a good worker
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
I fell asleep right after sin cara and Rey won. Caught the ending, man ryback is over. Lol at Punks booking though.
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10-08-2012, 11:52 PM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
It's obvious they were building a Ryback/Punk angle in case Cena isn't ready to go at HIAC.
If "Feed Me Roids" wins the title I am done for good.
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10-08-2012, 11:57 PM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
The 'Ryback or Cena' stipulation is an obvious tease, though CM Punk is obviously going to go for the guy he has taken on countless times and is coming off an injury as opposed to an unknown wrestler. He'll pick John Cena, and then Ryback will go to do something else, most likely to feud with Encore and put them out of their misery.
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10-09-2012, 12:11 AM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
When they announced C.M. Punk Vs. Mr. McMahon, I rolled my eyes & was as pessimistic as can be. I have to admit though, that main event was incredible. The crowd was hype as fuck to the point that the cameras were shaking. Ryback was mega-over when his theme hit. Punk hit a goddamn fan. The kendo stick fight was fun. Vince taking that much of a beating at the age 67 is insane. Punk getting thrown by McMahon over the table was gross. Vince was bleeding from the eye and the ear. Cena came out & threw Punk back into the ring to keep him in the picture. It was perfect, honestly, & I think the overrun will get a big number. Even Heyman got laid out!
The rest of the show might as well have been non-existent.
EDIT: Oh shit, I forgot: "What a maneuver!" I also loved, loved, loved that Ryback didn't get to hit his finish on Punk. Save that shit for PPV so people have to pay for it!
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10-09-2012, 12:15 AM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
Daniel Bryan forever being buried as the career token midcard comedy Yes/No guy is as depressing as stereotypical uncoordinated goofball hoss in Ryback winning the WWE title and being the new "Kevin Nash" of this era except without any of the good and with all of the suck. Best part of this show was that it proved that if you have little to no AJ Lee anywhere, it was frankly welcomed greatly in helping improving the aura and attitude of the show. Fire her ass and send her to the divas division forever. Utterly useless and quite frankly damaging character anywhere in the main event.
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Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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10-09-2012, 12:17 AM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
cena that lucky bitch, The things I would do to AJ....
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10-09-2012, 12:18 AM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
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This we definitely agree on, and this is my main problem with Ryback. from what i've seen from him, and i've seen his entire run, he's just big. he hasn't impressed me in any way shape or form. maybe he is a victim of his own physique because people subconsciously start expecting more for him, and seeing as he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary it just feels very flat and uneventful. also, he has, as has been previously stated in the thread, been part of the WWE for 8 years now so maybe the time where he could actually really do anything about it are actually gone now. I just don't see how he can change so dramatically stylewise after so many years.
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In some ways it's unfair to him because you can't expect him to do the things Goldberg and Lesnar use to do. It's like asking every single power hitter to duplicate Barry Bond's, McGwire's, Sosa's numbers. They drug test now. Those days are over with.
I'm sure Ryback's done his fair share of roids but the current drug testing is going to have an impact on every single wrestler's full "potential".
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10-09-2012, 12:26 AM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
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In some ways it's unfair to him because you can't expect him to do the things Goldberg and Lesnar use to do. It's like asking every single power hitter to duplicate Barry Bond's, McGwire's, Sosa's numbers. They drug test now. Those days are over with.
I'm sure Ryback's done his fair share of roids but the current drug testing is going to have an impact on every single wrestler's full "potential".
We're probally going to never see another Goldberg or Lesnar.
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Goldberg had the IT factor and just had amazing charisma for someone who had no mic skills. He was extremely powerful and built for more than just show (ie Batista) doing such feats as Jackhammering The Giant (Big Show) while Lesnar was not only legit one of the strongest dudes WWE has ever seen, but was as fast as a cruiserweight, could wrestle like Kurt Angle and although he botched at WM, used to pull off shooting star presses all the time in OVW.
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10-09-2012, 12:27 AM
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Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples
I can't believe there are so many haters on here. I'm as big a Punk fan as any right now and I didn't feel he was buried at all. He's being the HEEL. And these past few weeks they've made Ryback. The crowd going THAT apeshit after that clothesline eliminated all doubt in my opinion. Punk just made another star and DID HIS JOB. Hottest ending to a Raw in a long time
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