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Old 10-08-2012, 10:42 PM   #2211 (permalink)
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Ryback isn't anywhere near Lesnar's standard, neither was Goldberg. Goldberg is worse in the ring than Ryback and has worse mic skills too, of course he had an unnatural charisma around him whereas Ryback at the moment doesn't even have a third of that.

Lesnar was awesome in the ring due to the fact he was a natural athlete, amatuer wrestler in his younger days.
It is kind of unfortunate that these comparisons are going to continue to creep up. Personally, I can't help but compare him to Lesnar/Goldberg.

It just comes across as, I dunno, desperate. This guy does not fit my definition of a main eventer, and up until this point I didn't think that it was WWE's definition either. Vince is generally very careful with who he builds. Ryback is just so unremarkable underneath his muscle (unless he's improved a lot in recent months).
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:42 PM   #2212 (permalink)
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Default Re: Raw Discussion Thread 10/8/12: Rise Above Nipples

Just want to say that tonight's ending was likely the best since 1,000 and slightly better than the Cena/Punk promo from a few weeks back. I like when Vince is around and involved in the action and not just there.

I'm kind of getting tired of JBL on commentary, he just says the same shit over and over and fucks up a lot.

I have a feeling it will be a triple threat for the title at HIAC, that Punk will obviously win, leading to either a Punk/Ryback feud or Cena/Ryback feud.

Either way, I was very pleased with the show tonight, although I feel asleep during the Hell No/ADR & Ziggler match.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:43 PM   #2213 (permalink)
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well cue CM Punk's downfall. assaulting a fan is a big no-no.
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lol at people comparing Ryback to Lesnar. Lesnar was actually an athlete and an NCAA champion and all american. The best freestyle wrestler at the college level in his time. Ryback... is just some roided up guy who breaths heavy. Seriously guys.
exactly, and that is why Ryback is not believable in his current role.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:45 PM   #2215 (permalink)
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Yeah, all Rybacks fault that. But I suppose superstars wearing black trunks are knocking off Austin and Rock? Bryan starting the YES chant is knocking off Austin's WHAT?.. it's fucking wrestling, things go in cycles. Lesnar got the same treatment anyway, black trunks, undefeated streak, monster, Goldberg chants. Fast forward a few months to a year, no one gave a fuck
who cares if wrestling is cyclical. If I didn't like it the first time (which I didn't with Goldberg), I sure as fuck won't like the homeless man's version
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You are missing the point. Goldberg and Lesnar did super impressive stuff. like triple powerbombing Jeff Hardy, Belly-to-Belly suplexing bigs how, Launching Triple H Sky-High, being incredibly agile for their size, the list goes on.

And why should i keep him to another standard? the fact is that he is a powerhouse who seems unbeatable and has a streak. shouldn't he be compared to other powerhouses who had a streak? Look at what Lesnar did in his first month in the WWE, look at his style, the things he pulled off. THAT is a believable powerhouse: being strong. Ryback simply doesn't seem as strong as the others, he's just big, and he doesn't know how to use that size worth dick.
I've seen Ryback do super impressive stuff too, even as Skip Sheffield. It's not his fault if the WWE Writing team aren't letting him do the sort of moves you'd expect in his matches. When we see him against the likes of Cena (I'm sure we'll see it), or against Sheamus etc. we'll see how impressive Ryback can be, until then? We can only go on what we have seen.

I'm not disagreeing with you mate, Lesnar made Rikishi and Henry look like lightweights compared to him, threw them around the ring like nothing, but it was great booking for Lesnar, a monster heel coming in with Heyman as his mouth piece, destroying stars. Ryback hasn't been booked like that, he's come in as a face (when it's EXTREMELY hard to get fans on your side as a power face squashing jobbers than it is to gain heat in my opinion).

I think he needs to do some strength conditioning as opposed to weights just to look big. I do want to see Ryback throw around the likes of Henry (when he's back) and make Sheamus and other big superstars look like nothing.
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I can understand why people are enjoying punk's heel run, but I just can't...they're making him look like a bitch, should of just gave him back the "voice of the voiceless" gimmick, that's when punk was at his best but of course he can't overtake the "golden boy" John Cena for some fucking odd reason even though it's been proven punk can be face of company. Hell, his current heel character is proving how multi-dimensional he is even though I don't like the heel run per say. What im really interested in is all the shots he's been taking at austin the past weeks, I got over the E teasing us with an cena heel turn but I WILL NOT get over them fucking us over and teasing us with Austin/Punk and they don't pull it off.
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who cares if wrestling is cyclical. If I didn't like it the first time (which I didn't with Goldberg), I sure as fuck won't like the homeless man's version
Fair enough, then really then it shouldn't bother you.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:48 PM   #2219 (permalink)
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I need a nap. Whew. Good times, see you all next week.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:51 PM   #2220 (permalink)
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Why dont we have bad ass heels anymore? i dont get it. Remember back in the day, when HHH was the top heel? Now that guy was a fucking bad ass
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