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Old 10-06-2012, 05:26 PM   #161 (permalink)
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No one would know who Bobby Roode is. It would have to be someone that the fans are familiar with, like Sting, Goldberg or a returning Jeff Hardy, someone like that. A Dean Ambrose or Chris Hero won't register with the casuals.
The problem with using a guy like Goldberg or Sting is that they're all over the hill and giving them a big return reeks of desperation. Surely it's high time we stopped trying to rekindle the 'good old days' and put our faith in the younger generation.

Give a new guy a good enough debut and you'll make people care about him soon enough.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:33 PM   #162 (permalink)
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The problem with using a guy like Goldberg or Sting is that they're all over the hill and giving them a big return reeks of desperation.
You mean like bringing back The Rock to get the biggest Wrestlemania ever? WWE have been in desperation mode for awhile now. If it's not The Rock coming back, it's Jericho, or Austin or The Undertaker. WWE is doing nothing but living in the past right now. It's cause the guys from yesteryear were stars that people gave a fuck about. The Heath Slater Vs. Random Legend leading up to RAW 1,000 was better than anything else going on. I know I care more about Sid or Vader, even to this day, than most of the current roster. Vince coming back isn't surprising as he, himself, is a star from the past. We have had Brock Lesnar, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, The Undertaker, Mick Foley...it's not going to stop. They'll build to Austin/Punk too & we'll all eat it up. It's nothing but old stars because there aren't any new stars.

The problem is what happens when they don't have an old star to sell Wrestlemania for them? Undertaker can't continue the streak forever. Austin & the Rock can't come back forever. What happens when they have to sell the show off of current stars only, not with HBK, HHH or other guys as "co-main event?"

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Old 10-06-2012, 05:55 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Look at the company's pushed main star of Raw as spouted in said article: AJ Lee. No wonder they get their lowest ratings in 15 years. Them 18-30 year olds realizing Raw has become a tween Nickolodeon show starring the appropriate mediocre female performer for said role. Maybe they can bring in the cast of iCarly or some other bullshit to play Team Steph's ultimate vision of WWE. Idiots.
your signature makes me want to jump off a bridge. comparing luna vachon to the rock in terms of 'moving on to other things'? the rock was pushed to the moon and enjoyed a long run on top, and then he left for hollywood without properly giving back to the company. brock lesnar is a a disrespectful asshole who left on bad terms and he also was pushed to the moon and never properly gave back to the company. working on top for years with other big names is not 'giving back', the rock and brock lesnar are ungrateful people who have disrespected the wwe, their roster, and the business as a whole for not doing the right thing and giving back. and look at the two of them, popping back in every now and again to pick up a massive check and push hardworking and deserving new stars down the card. i know this is off-topic but i could barely contain myself after reading your signature. what a load of bullshit.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:41 PM   #164 (permalink)
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When will people learn nothing of note will happen until Linda loses again. Remember how in 2010 how everything was cookie cutting hot garbage and then they turned their product edgier until May of this year when Linda said she was running again.

Trust me guys when Linda loses again expect something edgy to happen again.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:11 PM   #165 (permalink)
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^ When will Linda learn that as long as her last name is McMahon, she ain't winning JACK....
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:16 PM   #166 (permalink)
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To shake things up, Vince will announce he's rehired Vince Russo.

In his first act he's booked a flaming table, tag titles on a pole match between Team Hell No and Team Rhodes Scholar. And the main event will be a lumberjack cage match between CM Punk and Ryback.

Meanwhile, the main event ends with all the lumberjacks trying to climb the cage before knocking each other off, the rest of the locker room who were not lumberjacks to begin with all come down with kindo sticks and baseball bats in hand and brawl with the lumberjacks, finally 1 armed Cena comes waddling down the ramp and throws a taser to Ryback, but Punk intercepts it and tases Ryback ending his winning streak.

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That show would give me reason, to watch the show on YouTube.That is why in one aspect Russo was awesome even though, he had some awful ideas at times at least it was entertaining and stuff would happen.
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your signature makes me want to jump off a bridge. comparing luna vachon to the rock in terms of 'moving on to other things'? the rock was pushed to the moon and enjoyed a long run on top, and then he left for hollywood without properly giving back to the company. brock lesnar is a a disrespectful asshole who left on bad terms and he also was pushed to the moon and never properly gave back to the company. working on top for years with other big names is not 'giving back', the rock and brock lesnar are ungrateful people who have disrespected the wwe, their roster, and the business as a whole for not doing the right thing and giving back. and look at the two of them, popping back in every now and again to pick up a massive check and push hardworking and deserving new stars down the card. i know this is off-topic but i could barely contain myself after reading your signature. what a load of bullshit.
And your post makes me want to jump off a bridge. Are we still not over with this Rock left for Hollywood BS? He was pushed to the moon and he paid his company everything back and entertained the fans. He contributed a lot to the Attitude Era, he did the impossible and was successful in replacing Stone Cold in the Attitude Era late 99-2000, he put over guys like Brock Lesnar, Goldberg and even the freakin Gregory Helms before leaving for Hollywood.
Brock Lesnar enjoyed wrestling but he was not lucky with the travelling. Was it wrong for him to leaving? No, if someone is not happy he should quit whatever it is. Should he stayed and get depressed and end one day like Mike Awesome and Chris Kanyon?
I'd rather have a monster 2002-2003 with great matches against guys like Kurt angle, The Undertaker and The Rock than some guy who is not motivated and watch matches like against Goldberg.
Boo hoo Brock & Rock disrespect the business by bringing old fans back and publicity to WWE, they disrespect the roster by pushing them down the card. The Rock wrestled only once this year and Lesnar only twice so how come that the poor guys held down by the evil Brock & Rock like Swagger, McIntyre, Usos, Kofi, R-Truth, Gabriel, Sin Cara, Hunico, DiBiase or Kidd are not main eventing PPVs?
And these two guys are so bad by returning only for the paycheck, I guess you come every morning to work not because of the paycheck and you would have no problems to work 5-6 months without pay.
And you call other posts bullshit after posting this?

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For those saying "It's probably going to be stupid", do not watch it. Screw the "I'm just watching it for hope" stuff for just ONE WEEK.

By not watching Raw this week, you can help make a difference that may not come up again for another month. This is the most important Raw to not watch this year.

I think people fail to realize that WWE is in panic mode from last week so their solution is "Bring back John Cena" and to have McMahon (an authority figure) do something. The on air weekly authority figure is played out and it's been around since 1996. These are not solutions, but if they recover in the ratings, the company continue think it is.

I don't watch Raw anymore so I don't have this problem. But if you are bitching and complaining about how terrible the product is (and it is!), do not watch this Monday. If you do, then in my opinion, you have no right to complain about the product since you failed to do something when given the chance. Watch The Voice, play a video game, watch Netflix (hell watch wrestling on netflix), read a book, watch baseball, bite your nails. Any of those will do.

If the rating stays the same or better yet, goes lower, it shows WWE their old "fix its" no longer work. If it goes back to normal, then the message is sent

that the audience thinks everything they are doing is right.

Make a difference.
Agree with everything you have said, I don't watch the shows either and that is for two reasons.
1.I live in the UK and start College at 9am, I am not going to waste my sleep watching something that is awful.
2.I know watching the shows live are a waste of time, instead I only watch the best bits on YouTube.

I find people watching the shows only to hate on it, and say that Raw is awful every week stupid if you hate why watch it simple.
Not watching this show is important I agree with you on that.As by not watching this week's Raw, WWE might finally do something and change the direction that company is going. The reason is if people don't watch this show on Monday Night, the have to do something to change the product for the better and make the shows more entertaining.
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You mean like bringing back The Rock to get the biggest Wrestlemania ever? WWE have been in desperation mode for awhile now. If it's not The Rock coming back, it's Jericho, or Austin or The Undertaker. WWE is doing nothing but living in the past right now. It's cause the guys from yesteryear were stars that people gave a fuck about. The Heath Slater Vs. Random Legend leading up to RAW 1,000 was better than anything else going on. I know I care more about Sid or Vader, even to this day, than most of the current roster. Vince coming back isn't surprising as he, himself, is a star from the past. We have had Brock Lesnar, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, The Undertaker, Mick Foley...it's not going to stop. They'll build to Austin/Punk too & we'll all eat it up. It's nothing but old stars because there aren't any new stars.

The problem is what happens when they don't have an old star to sell Wrestlemania for them? Undertaker can't continue the streak forever. Austin & the Rock can't come back forever. What happens when they have to sell the show off of current stars only, not with HBK, HHH or other guys as "co-main event?"
They're gonna need to do something out of the box again like the shoot promo. That, or they're gonna need to become RAW again. I am not sure how troubled the WWE is, but it seems like they don't have faith in their own stars anymore. 2 Stars were (and I say this a lot) made big time in 2011 Sheamus and CM punk, heck, even Ryder became something big, but the ball always seems to stop rolling and we end up back to our mega draws, Cena, Orton, and HHH. WWE is now putting a lot of weight on Punk, because of all the star power that was built up in 2011 during the MITB fiasco, Punk's stayed strong up until now. Sheamus's star power has died down immensely due to some pretty HORRIBLE shitty booking.

Let's not forget Show is lugging his horrible weight around ruining new stars at any given time.
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I think that people are getting overblown with this. Just watch or not watch but until then wait and see what happens. Stop over thinking it. History has proven this year that every time Vince has shown up, it has mostly been about the General Manager position. A position that they need to take away from TV in my opinion. Maybe Vince will say something that will shake things up or maybe it will just be him speaking in a segment with Punk/heyman, who knows.
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