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TJTheGr81 · 10-04-2012, 04:23 PM

I don't hate Sheamus. I hate what WWE has turned him into. I want to like him like I did before Mania, but WWE just makes it impossible. Being a complete dick yet being portrayed as a good guy, not selling anything, kicking out at one nearly all the time in his matches, they really have made him into Cena-lite. I still think he's good in the ring when the time calls for it and I still think he can cut a good promo when he's not working with the garbage he's fed weekly. But he's been ruined.

**JY57** · 10-04-2012, 05:26 PM

I will always like the guy. Hell almost everybody likes Ziggler, but I can't stand the his character

Huganomics · 10-04-2012, 05:32 PM

The majority of the IWC underrating a top face and giving him a shit ton of hate? You don't say.

roadkill_ · 10-04-2012, 07:28 PM

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According the definition , it is the ability to have influence over a large number of people, which in this case, is the WWE Universe. Every time Orton comes out, he gets huge pops and is constantly cheered. People love him and that is because of his charisma. People want to see him kick ass even if you don't and are drawn to him due to the charisma he possesses.

Charisma suggests some form of control over the audience. Orton looks bored, vacuous and the pop he gets is from the 14 year old girls in attendance during his entrance. Aside from that Orton is not fit for anyone to suggest he has 'it'.

Because if we're now using what the impulses of schoogirls amount to as the measuring stick for 'it' then wrestling is in more trouble than we feared. I mean, the only difference between Randy Orton and Dean Malenko in terms of charismatic appeal is that some kids find the former crush-worthy. And WCW got an entire feud out of Chris Jericho mocking Malenko's wooden demeanor. Orton's entire physiognomy is pure wooden. Plus the guy has issues and is no ring general.

VladMan2012 · 10-04-2012, 08:43 PM

Sheamus is one of the most dullest, most unbearable face characters in recent memory. He hasn't done a single interesting thing since burying Daniel Bryan in 18 seconds, he's one of the worst World Heavyweight Champions the WWE has had. He's beyond cringeworthy and corny on the mic, and I can't recall a time where I didn't face palm at any of his mediocre at best promos. He's an average at best wrestler who needs to be carried by a top/superior worker in order to participate in a good/great match, and it has only proven just how limited he is as a performer. His matches are enormously predictable given his Superman booking, talk about a typical John Cena-like fashion. Not to mention he didn't do anything to deserve his major pushes, he only get big and will only get bigger for one reason and one reason only - he's Triple H's workout buddy.

cavs25 · 10-04-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TJTheGr81

I don't hate Sheamus. I hate what WWE has turned him into. I want to like him like I did before Mania, but WWE just makes it impossible. Being a complete dick yet being portrayed as a good guy, not selling anything, kicking out at one nearly all the time in his matches, they really have made him into Cena-lite. I still think he's good in the ring when the time calls for it and I still think he can cut a good promo when he's not working with the garbage he's fed weekly. But he's been ruined.

This is how I feel...This happens with most people who are turned face too is not just Sheamus
Guys need to have some balls and say no to shitty material

I feel like superstars this days are too nice and too good behind the scenes and just want to do what makes Vince happy (be a team player)

But look where that has gotten the company. You need guys to be selfish and start protecting their characters and gimmick and shooting down bullshit by creative. I am sure I heard Austin and the Rock used to throw away the scripts when they sucked. I know they were different times and now the WWE is PG and Linda is running for senate but they need to let the guys make their own material and rise or crash on their own.

Freeloader · 10-04-2012, 10:36 PM

Sheamus rocks. He's Irish like me, so I'm bias.

Brogue Kick · 10-04-2012, 11:20 PM

lol at everyone saying Sheamus is in this position only because of being a friend of Triple H.

If lets say Yoshi Tatsu was Paul's best friend. You think he would be a 2 time WWE Champion, King of the Ring, World Heavyweight champion, US Champion, & Royal Rumble winner?

Brodus Clay · 10-04-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brogue Kick

lol at everyone saying Sheamus is in this position only because of being a friend of Triple H.

If lets say Yoshi Tatsu was Paul's best friend. You think he would be a 2 time WWE Champion, King of the Ring, World Heavyweight champion, US Champion, & Royal Rumble winner?

If he was Sheamus size and American,Mexican or Irish... yes without doubt he would get same push.

Brogue Kick · 10-04-2012, 11:27 PM

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If he was Sheamus size and American,Mexican or Irish... yes without doubt he would get same push.

its the same crap people said about Batista. Everyone said he only got a push because of Paul. Yeah its not because he is talented, hard worker, and has a look of a good competitor.

Sheamus & Batista are two talented guys. Vince could have said no to these guys if he didn't think highly of them. Not like Paul can do anything. whats he going to do take Stephanie and run to Bermuda?