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#PushKofiKingston · 10-04-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSupremeForce

What makes Kofi a good high flyer? I'm really asking, because all I remember him doing is springboard arm flailing and crossbodies. He has an annoying tendency to badly overshoot with both, as well, making the exchanges look ridiculous. If anything, he looks much better during those matches when he's forced to actually get a little technical. I have similar feelings about Gabriel (though Justin has better aim and is better than Kofi at wrestling, in general).

Kofi's over because he's been consistently pushed as a midcard title contending face for years now. How can someone like Kidd reach that point when he's not even given as much of an opportunity as Kofi's been given?

Definition of High Flyer - Aerial techniques or maneuvers, using the ring and its posts and ropes as aids.

How does this not apply to Kofi?

Kidd has never been given a singles push because of his failed attempt at a tag team called the Hart Dynasty. That was one of the worst tag teams I've seen in terms of charisma. They could never get over even when pushed. Not saying the guy can't wrestle because he's extremely talented. I would consider him top 5 in WWE. He lacks charisma. When going up against Tensai and beating him, he's still didn't get a pop. Alex Riley gets pops from the crowd even when he had been off TV for months because he is charismatic. Kidd isn't.

Brodus Clay · 10-04-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by #PushKofiKingston

Took me a while to comment because I needed to calm down.

I don't have a problem with Kofi, but this made me lol

#PushKofiKingston · 10-04-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodus Clay

I don't have a problem with Kofi, but this made me lol

the OP got under my skin a little lol. If didn't calm down my post would have been an irrational mess.

Joker-T · 10-05-2012, 06:36 AM

You know what...I'm a kofi kingston fan and have been since he first debuted nearly 5 years ago. Every single raw I look forward to seeing him wrestle because I know he can turn it on in the ring.

I don't understand the ops point...he's simply putting him down?

He's thoroughly entitled to his opinion and so is everyone.

But in the last 5 years he has created some of the most memorable moments...

His recent match with dolph ziggler on raw was one of the best tv matches of the year.....enough said!

Monterossa · 10-05-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by #PushKofiKingston

Definition of High Flyer - Aerial techniques or maneuvers, using the ring and its posts and ropes as aids.

How does this not apply to Kofi?

Kidd has never been given a singles push because of his failed attempt at a tag team called the Hart Dynasty. That was one of the worst tag teams I've seen in terms of charisma. They could never get over even when pushed. Not saying the guy can't wrestle because he's extremely talented. I would consider him top 5 in WWE. He lacks charisma. When going up against Tensai and beating him, he's still didn't get a pop. Alex Riley gets pops from the crowd even when he had been off TV for months because he is charismatic. Kidd isn't.

HAHAHA

If crossbody + dropkick = high flyer

then 2004 Randy Orton is a high flyer too.

I think Kofi is pretending to be a high flyer by jumping around the ring and fool you people that he's a high flyer.

ashes11 · 10-06-2012, 10:14 AM

OP, while I don't like Kofi, and agree with most of your well made points, I do believe Kofi has value to the WWE. For you see, over mid card babyfaces, Ryder, Santino, Kofi, Rey are important, when used against the main event heels, in a business where the Heels find it so hard to get clean wins, and the top faces rarely lose clean, people like Kofi are ideal for jobbing to the heels, like he did Del Rio this week. During Dbry's worlds title run, the only people that tapped to him were Kofi and Santino, hence I think he has some worth in the company.

Warren Zevon · 10-06-2012, 01:27 PM

I've never seen the appeal in him. Sure he is mobile and can jump around, but so are people like Sin Cara, Rey Mysterio and Hunico, and they do it without the irritating Jamaican stuff. What is that whole "boom boom" thing supposed to mean anyways? I hear it in a lot of Jamaican advertising and whatnot, but I've never bothered to learn the history behind it.

razzathereaver · 10-06-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ashes11

OP, while I don't like Kofi, and agree with most of your well made points, I do believe Kofi has value to the WWE. For you see, over mid card babyfaces, Ryder, Santino, Kofi, Rey are important, when used against the main event heels, in a business where the Heels find it so hard to get clean wins, and the top faces rarely lose clean, people like Kofi are ideal for jobbing to the heels, like he did Del Rio this week. During Dbry's worlds title run, the only people that tapped to him were Kofi and Santino, hence I think he has some worth in the company.

Am I the only one who reads this in Zapp Brannigan's voice? While I agree with OP's sentiments about wresterls like that, I wonder why it's directed at Kofi specifically. I'm sure there are worse people in the WWE who are guilty of this. Kofi has some wrestling skill, Otunga really cannot wrestle, and is more of a disposable commodity than Kofi is.

**777** · 10-06-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ashes11

OP, while I don't like Kofi, and agree with most of your well made points, I do believe Kofi has value to the WWE. For you see, over mid card babyfaces, Ryder, Santino, Kofi, Rey are important, when used against the main event heels, in a business where the Heels find it so hard to get clean wins, and the top faces rarely lose clean, people like Kofi are ideal for jobbing to the heels, like he did Del Rio this week. During Dbry's worlds title run, the only people that tapped to him were Kofi and Santino, hence I think he has some worth in the company.

While Jericho's recent run saw him put over as many faces as possible Kofi was one of the few to actually job for Y2J in some very well wrestled matches. Goes to what your saying, he has a role to play.

Loudness · 10-06-2012, 01:53 PM

I agree with OP. Not because I hate Kofi, I actually liked him when he feuded with Orton a few years ago, but as your post states, it's not the wrestler that's important, you just used him as one of many examples of guys who are like that. This list includes McIntyre, Ziggler, Rhodes (who gets a pass from beeing so young), Sheamus, Punk (for around 6 months of his terrible face run where he randomly started coasting it in), ADR, Kofi, and some others I forgot to mention right now. All guys from different company statuses, from jobber to ME guy but the point still holds. Neither of these guys seem like they really want to get to the next level, they just all seem to be happy with the Status Quo. Ignoring Punk and Rhodes, all those guys I mentioned could have become more entertaining by simply going out their way, even if I personally like their work but instead they do generic work, and expect to get ME guys (which sadly worked for some of them though, so I don't blame them for that philosophy).